[Arthur McGowan]

The idea that Jesus’ point was not to use the word “father” under any circumstances is fatuous.

Jesus would never say anything so trivial.

Did it ever occur to you that Jesus was making a point that was deeper? I.e., that we are to look to God for LIFE, and the truth, and that any man is only a representative or agent of God—including our biological fathers, or the apostles, or anyone who teaches us?

Do you call anyone “teacher”? Of course you do. Yet, Jesus said, “Call no man ‘teacher.’” The meaning is: No teacher is the SOURCE of truth in the way that God is the source of truth.

Your smug Catholic-bashing is offensive.

[Iscool]

The idea that Jesus’ point was not to use the word “father” under any circumstances is fatuous.

There you go again, misquoting me AND God...

Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

No one said don't use the word 'father'...Jesus said, Don't call any man father...As in a title...I had a father...But I didn't call him father...

Do you call anyone “teacher”? Of course you do. Yet, Jesus said, “Call no man ‘teacher.’”

Here's the correct verse:

Mat 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

It's no wonder you guys have such whacked out ideas about Christianity...You apparently don't even know what God tells you in the scriptures...

[Uri’el-2012]

The idea that Jesus’ point was not to use the word “father” under any circumstances is fatuous.

Did I understand you correctly ?

Do you really believe that the Words of
Creator of the Universe is silly and pointless ?

silly, foolish, stupid, inane, idiotic, vacuous, asinine; pointless,
senseless, ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd; informal dumb, daft.

Do you come to that position as a former RCC "priest" ?

Is it the corporate position of the Roman "church" ?

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[metmom]

Matthew 23:1-12 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat, so practice and observe whatever they tell you— but not what they do. For they preach, but do not practice.

They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. They do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, 6and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces and being called rabbi by others.

But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ. The greatest among you shall be your servant. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

Taken in context there is no indication that the term *father* is not to be used by a child for his male parent.

Jesus here is talking about religious leaders and their positions and using the title in a religious sense.

The Catholic church is clearly violating the clear teaching of Jesus in regards to using the term *father* for religious leaders.

[RnMomof7]

The idea that Jesus’ point was not to use the word “father” under any circumstances is fatuous.

Art it is only fair to let ISCOOL know lots of folks call you "father" maybe he would give ya some space on that

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that we are to look to God for LIFE, and the truth, and that any man is only a representative or agent of God—including our biological fathers, or the apostles, or anyone who teaches us?

Look to God in HIS Word which is Holy Spirit inspired and; thus HIS WORD is spiritually discerned. So any representative of Christ would have to be Holy Spirit filled.

Also, a representative of Christ would not teach tradition. His representative would not nullify the One he represents.

"Thus you nullify the Word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13