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To: bibletruth
AMEN!

A friend told me that if Roman Catholics understood what the office of "mediator" really is, they would understand better how wrong it is to say Mary or any saint is a "mediator between God and men."

And so Christians are called to kneel to none but Christ.

2 posted on 12/03/2010 4:21:24 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
What's the difference between asking Mary to pray for you in time of need or any other friend or acquaintance?

Have you ever prayed for another person?

8 posted on 12/03/2010 4:46:47 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Exactly where in Catholic doctrine does it say that there is any other way to God than through Jesus Christ and Him crucified, resurrected and gloriously sitting at the right hand of the Father?


16 posted on 12/03/2010 5:13:04 PM PST by Jvette
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Praise God! And soon every knee SHALL bow to the One and Only Mediator!


22 posted on 12/03/2010 5:32:07 PM PST by hope
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
A friend told me that if Roman Catholics understood what the office of "mediator" really is, they would understand better how wrong it is to say Mary or any saint is a "mediator between God and men."

A friend told me that if Protestants understood Catholics, instead of their hostile caricature of it, they would understand that neither Mary nor any other saint "mediates between God and men" in addition to or apart from Christ, but always, only, and strictly between men and the God-man, Christ Jesus Our Lord.

They would further understand that objections to that apply equally well to any other intercessory prayer by Christians on behalf of each other, because all of it is mediation between the Christian being prayed for and the Redeemer.

74 posted on 12/04/2010 9:36:52 AM PST by Campion
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; bibletruth
Ah, some more lies, let me repeat what is Church teaching
The Catholic Church has always believed that Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. It is the death and resurrection of Jesus alone by which people are saved.

In 449 Pope Leo the Great wrote his Tome against Eutyches, who taught that Jesus Christ had only one nature, not two. (This was the heresy of monophysitism.) In the Tome, which the Council of Chalcedon accepted as the authentic Catholic teaching on Christ, he quotes 1 Timothy 2:5 as the authentic Catholic doctrine: "Hence, as was suitable for the alleviation of our distress, one and the same mediator between God and men, himself man, Christ Jesus, was both mortal and immortal under different.aspects."

The fifth session of the Council of Trent (1546) laid out the belief in Jesus the one true mediator as the norm of Catholic faith: "[Original sin cannot be] taken away through the powers of human nature or through a remedy other than the merit of the one mediator, our Lord Jesus Christ, who reconciled us to God in his blood, having become our justice, and sanctification, and redemption."

The schema of the Dogmatic Constitution on the Principal Mysteries of the Faith, drafted for the First Vatican Council (1869-1870), includes the unique mediation of Jesus Christ as one of these principal mysteries: "Truly, therefore, Christ Jesus is mediator between God and man, one man dying for all; he made satisfaction to the divine justice for us, and he erased the handwriting that was against us. Despoiling principalities and powers, he brought us from our longstanding slavery into the freedom of sons."
Look closely at what 1 Timothy 2:5 really says: Jesus is the only mediator between God and man. Because Jesus was the God-Man, only he can be the Mediator, the one who is between. Between men and the Father, there is the Son. This doesn’t undercut our belief that the saints in heaven intercede for us because these saints, too, are (wo)men; they are members of mankind. Thus, we ((wo)men) ask them ((wo)men, too) to pray to the one Mediator (Jesus) in order to find favor with the Father.

Do NOT spread lies about the Church. If your individual cults (bibletruth's cult which seems to be of 10 people and hates those who read anything other than the KJV and believes that the bible was written in KJV English and Dr E's cult's non-Christian dogma)
720 posted on 12/07/2010 4:03:22 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (And the word was made flesh, and dwelt amonst us))
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