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Church rejects Mormon couple as Cub leaders
NewJersey.com ^ | Thursday, October 21, 2010

Posted on 10/22/2010 2:42:31 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: MHGinTN
Do not accuse another Freeper of telling a lie - it attributes motive, the intent to deceive. It is "making it personal".

Words like "false" "wrong" "error" "misleading" do not attribute motive.

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

261 posted on 10/24/2010 8:42:25 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Paragon Defender

So now you assert that posting the actual quotes from your prophet and teachers is ‘propaganda’? Bwahahahahahaha ... and shame on me? LOL, you wish!


262 posted on 10/24/2010 9:01:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Religion Moderator

So “Misrepresentation” is ok?


263 posted on 10/24/2010 9:24:34 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

Yes


264 posted on 10/24/2010 9:28:00 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Excellent.


265 posted on 10/24/2010 9:30:08 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

266 posted on 10/25/2010 5:41:17 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

So now you assert that posting the actual quotes from your prophet and teachers is ‘propaganda’?


Nope. Never said that. More twisted thinking on your part. No surprise.


267 posted on 10/25/2010 6:10:33 AM PDT by Paragon Defender
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To: MHGinTN

Purple...


268 posted on 10/25/2010 6:48:11 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Elsie
If they want to play games instead of actually defend their faith (as if), I want to know the rules...
269 posted on 10/25/2010 6:54:26 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

Feelings, nothing more than feelings... placemarker


270 posted on 10/25/2010 7:10:42 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ejonesie22; Normandy; aMorePerfectUnion; Colofornian; Godzilla; Elsie; Tennessee Nana; ...
So far, we have ONE honest Mormon posting on these threads. When shown the quotes from his religion's founder, Joseph Smith, and the follow-up quotes from other leaders in his religion, he honestly stated that he sees nothing wrong with the meaning of those quotes. Normandy is honest, and honestly believes the polytheism and fantasies from Joseph Smith. But he is so far the only posting Mormon who does not try to dissemble (deceive regarding) the posted facts on Mormonism and direct quotes from the Mormon leadership as found in LDS literature.

Of course, one or two other Mormon posters are not able to follow the flow of discussion and have little or no foundation even in the heresies of Mormonism, as they are 'go along with the directives' Mormons you cannot expect honesty from such since they feel the need to obfuscate openly, posting a list of web connections which will do the 'witnessing'.

Sad really, that the haystack posters know so little of the heretical rot found at their links, but we post the quotes from the leadership of LDS inc anyway and ignore the ignorance on parade.

I wonder though, does Mormonism teach the adherents to twist truths, so that the twisted sentence fits the mold of Moronism fallacy? I mean, when someone who is honest states that they do not believe God will torment 'forever' those who behave well in life, it is obvious that somewhere a twisted image has been conveyed and believed.

The Bible clearly teaches that it is the non-believer who seals their own destiny, and that God intends there to be a place of outer darkness for those unfit to be in His presence is not incredible at all: God is righteous and cannot allow unrighteousness in His presence else it diminish His righteousness.

The flesh veils the inner man, as Jesus taught when He spoke of what comes up out of the heart defiling the man, not what goes in at the mouth of the man. The God Who created the Universe is greater than His creation. The god of Mormonism is not greater than the Universe since the Mormon god had to have something already in existence which he could manipulate to fashion things.

The jesus of Mormonism is a created thing made from whatever was in existence that the Mormon god used to sire his 'spirit offspring'. The Mormon god was created by an earlier god, and so on backward for some unspecified length of time. The God Mormons don't know, Who created the Universe, created Time and Space and all that is in the Universe, by His Word, and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us in Jesus The Christ.

Perhaps an honest Mormon can someday find this real Jesus, Who is God, the Real God Who was before there was anything made, in Whom was the Word and The Word was God. We can pray for that eventuality.

271 posted on 10/25/2010 8:49:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; ejonesie22; Normandy; aMorePerfectUnion; Colofornian; Elsie; Tennessee Nana; ...

We are told by these underwhelming mormon apologists that if we want to by a GM car, we shouldn’t go to any source about the car but GM.

How logical is that? GM has a vested interest in having you BUY that car. They will tell you “look at the lines” of the car, feel the leather, etc. They’ll tell you anything in order to get you to ‘commit’ to buying it.

Someone who is interested in confirming the truth will seek out other sources (Car and Driver, Consumer reports), who will independently evaluate the vehicle, and recommend one way or another - not relying upon ‘emotions’ or ‘feelings’ but road tested reality.

Snake oil salesmen made money based upon emotional responses - not truth, and when the truth was known they were generally run out of town (if they hadn’t beat feet earlier).

I prefer that the snake oil salesmen are exposed from the start, and not after they have poisoned their ‘customers’, just like I would that those lemons not be sold to unsuspecting Christians.


272 posted on 10/25/2010 9:03:09 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Normandy
The following is from the Sunday sermon of one of our FreeRepublic Pastors, addressing this notion of 'good people' who will expect to be ushered into Heaven on the basis of their 'good living':

In the story of the Pharisee and the Publican, a parable Jesus told “to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous,” the Pharisee says: “God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.” And of course Jesus means that this is not a good way to pray, that this would be a case of someone who does, wrongly, trust in his own righteousness.

273 posted on 10/25/2010 9:10:11 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; Paragon Defender; ejonesie22; Normandy; aMorePerfectUnion; Colofornian; Godzilla; caww; ...

Here ya go!

You’ll actually get ANSWERS from this online MORMON wannabe!

http://www.manifestation.com/neurotoys/eliza.php3

Ask her ANYTHING and she will NEVER post a link, but will answer you.


274 posted on 10/26/2010 4:45:17 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla; Utah Binger
I prefer that the snake oil salesmen are exposed from the start, and not after they have poisoned their ‘customers’, just like I would that those lemons not be sold to unsuspecting Christians.

 
 
http://www.blackmariagallery.com/exhibitions/paul_chatem_it_tastes_like_whiskey/

275 posted on 10/26/2010 4:52:42 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla

When it comes to matters about God, I would suggest that the most trustworthy source to consult is God himself.


276 posted on 10/26/2010 4:58:09 AM PDT by Normandy
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To: Elsie
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Good morning from a premier snake oil salesman! Sorry about the scenery I have to look at this time of year.

277 posted on 10/26/2010 5:02:46 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Maynard Dixon Country)
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To: Utah Binger; Elsie; colorcountry
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It's beautiful down at Lee's Ferry too. Yes that John Lee.

278 posted on 10/26/2010 5:17:20 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Maynard Dixon Country)
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To: Utah Binger

I have a MASSIVE front moving thru right now with 50 mph winds that is taking all 13 acres of leaves and placing them in the northern neighbors cornfield!

It is time to go to town for breakfast!

(The wife is on vacation this week so I may not be on here as much..Something about a honeydew list...)


279 posted on 10/26/2010 7:10:42 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger
It's beautiful down at Lee's Ferry too.

Where the rangers found some writings embedded in the stonework of one of the houses a few years back?


I was swimming there the week after they had let the large amount of water out of Lake Powell to scrub the canyon.

280 posted on 10/26/2010 7:13:38 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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