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The survey found that 14% of Tea Party participants are white Catholics, and another 4% are Latino Catholics-- a lower percentage total than the 22% of Americans who are Catholic....

....In addition, the survey found that Catholics overwhelmingly support legal recognition of homosexual unions. 41% of white Catholics, and 46% of Latino Catholics, support same-sex marriage, while an additional 36% of white Catholics, and 22% of Latino Catholics, support same-sex civil unions. Only 19% of white Catholics, and 30% of Latino Catholics, are faithful to Catholic teaching, which opposes the legal recognition of homosexual unions.

1 posted on 10/08/2010 7:08:14 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy; DoctorBulldog; Celtic Cross; Grizzled Bear; ScoopAmma; Irisshlass; informavoracious; ..

Since the Church is not a democracy, even if this poll is close to accurate, it doesn’t reflect what the Church believes or teaches.

Your thoughts?


2 posted on 10/08/2010 7:10:26 AM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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Bishops have been asleep at the switch. Perhaps the should stick to Catholic teachings instead of making up “social justice” non-sense.


3 posted on 10/08/2010 7:12:27 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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This doesn't surprise me at all. Most Catholics in the USA tend to support pre-birth baby-killing as well. For most people, the word "Catholic" in an American context describes a person who tends to be flamingly liberal on most issues but likes to have a veneer of religious identification, as opposed to someone who is truly a disciple of Christ.

I want to thank all my Catholic FRiends here for defying this stereotype. You're all much better at being Christians than many of your US-based Church leaders.

4 posted on 10/08/2010 7:17:32 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Neat trick. Dividing those who support same-sex marriages with those who support civil unions, then adding them back together to get a super majority.

A more relevant poll would be polling CINO's and practicing Catholics separately.

It also doesn't make sense that Latino Catholics would support same-sex marriages in numbers higher than white Catholics. Didn't actual voting data in California's measure two years ago produce exactly the opposite results?

Another question which ought to be asked and isn't-- How many support gay marriage only because they are tired of the constant whining from the homo lobby and think this will shut them up?

5 posted on 10/08/2010 7:18:08 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Homosexual priests of the past did their job well... endlessly preaching ‘forgiveness’ without tying it to a person expressing regret.


7 posted on 10/08/2010 7:20:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal violence against Tea Party: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFeUhSlHiUQ)
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You would find ZERO support among pre-Vatican II, Traditional Mass clingers-on like myself and others here. (Actually, even most contemporary Catholics in a conservative area such as where I live hold correct Catholic views).


9 posted on 10/08/2010 7:29:19 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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The New Jersey town I live in has a large Catholic population and the streets were lined with hundreds of people protesting for the right to Life and against abortion this past Sunday. The line of people went on for miles. I tend not to believe that this poll is accurate.


13 posted on 10/08/2010 7:36:43 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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Catholics who have not been catechized.....thus the Pope’s call to evangelize our own Church!!!

Practicing Catholics who are spiritually grounded and know their faith NEED to answer the call.


14 posted on 10/08/2010 7:41:28 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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Catholics who support homosexual unions are not Christians period.


18 posted on 10/08/2010 7:51:26 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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God Bless All who seek His Truth!


20 posted on 10/08/2010 7:57:34 AM PDT by onedoug
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Probably the same “Catholics” who are pro-choice.


21 posted on 10/08/2010 8:02:42 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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You cit Catholic Culture but you failed to mention an author. I can’t think of one author on Catholic Culture who would have such a headline — is it yours?

Direct link please.


22 posted on 10/08/2010 8:09:08 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Just as I thought — This story is written with secular information:

http://www.publicreligion.org/objects/uploads/fck/file/AVS%202010%20Report%20FINAL.pdf


24 posted on 10/08/2010 8:21:17 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Marriage is a sacrament. There are seven sacraments in the Church: Baptism, Confirmation, Eucharist, Penance, Anointing of the Sick, Holy Orders, and Matrimony.

Before the Catholic Church there was no marriage. Men took wives.

matrimony, is a "covenant by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life and which is ordered by its nature to the good of the spouses

No amount of rationalization, justification or legalization will change that.

26 posted on 10/08/2010 8:23:38 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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Catholics in the U.S. are overwhelmingly CINO.


28 posted on 10/08/2010 8:31:50 AM PDT by MayfairFly ("Your total ignorance of that which you profess to teach merits the death penalty.")
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Did you know this stuff was put out with the benefit of the Ford Foundation? PLEASE include that information in your post... It’s like running something put out by George Soros without a disclaimer...


29 posted on 10/08/2010 8:33:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal violence against Tea Party: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFeUhSlHiUQ)
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I’m a Mormon who has worked alongside faithful Catholics in a pro-family, pro-life NGO. I find these poll results really suspect.


30 posted on 10/08/2010 8:36:24 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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Nobody asked me...

-Theo


32 posted on 10/08/2010 8:40:40 AM PDT by TeĆ³filo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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Well, as others have said, this is NOT the position of the Church. There are a fair number of ignorant or dissident Catholics around, because of the dismal failure of the bishops to keep a better watch over the catechists over the past forty years or so.

But I am also suspicious of this poll and the clearly leftist organization that ran it. What question did they actually ask? Who did they ask. How much did they fudge the numbers?

For instance, as a Catholic, I think homosexual unions (not marriages) are wrong. But I’m not going to go around telling my homosexual friends that. I don’t approve of their relationships, and I won’t tell them that I approve of them, but I don’t think it would be useful to attack them on those grounds. Converting anyone in that sort of way is extremely unlikely.

I doubt very much, to conclude, whether these pollsters would even begin to understand the concept of “hate the sin but love the sinner.” So I doubt whether this poll is anywhere near meaningful.


36 posted on 10/08/2010 8:52:24 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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So what. Being right about something is not a matter of majority rules.


38 posted on 10/08/2010 9:24:22 AM PDT by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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