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To: Alex Murphy

Well, as others have said, this is NOT the position of the Church. There are a fair number of ignorant or dissident Catholics around, because of the dismal failure of the bishops to keep a better watch over the catechists over the past forty years or so.

But I am also suspicious of this poll and the clearly leftist organization that ran it. What question did they actually ask? Who did they ask. How much did they fudge the numbers?

For instance, as a Catholic, I think homosexual unions (not marriages) are wrong. But I’m not going to go around telling my homosexual friends that. I don’t approve of their relationships, and I won’t tell them that I approve of them, but I don’t think it would be useful to attack them on those grounds. Converting anyone in that sort of way is extremely unlikely.

I doubt very much, to conclude, whether these pollsters would even begin to understand the concept of “hate the sin but love the sinner.” So I doubt whether this poll is anywhere near meaningful.


36 posted on 10/08/2010 8:52:24 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Cicero; sickoflibs
I discussed this issue with a young Quaker the other night - my point was that Churches have the right to define their own positions - and defend them.

For-instance, I believe it would be wrong for a bunch of retired military generals to join Quaker Organizations with the intent of getting them to be more positive toward war.

There are plenty of churches that accept military solutions to some national problems. Quakers have the right to maintain their own beliefs.

It's the same with the Catholic Church - they have the right NOT to accept homosexuality.

Would you be afraid to speak up about ex-military moving in and taking over the Quaker beliefs?

46 posted on 10/08/2010 11:21:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal violence against Tea Party: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFeUhSlHiUQ)
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To: Cicero
For instance, as a Catholic,

As a Republican voting Catholic, you are in the minority, do you really think that the majority of Catholics vote Democrat yet disagree with their pro abortion, pro homosexual, pro immigration platform?

48 posted on 10/08/2010 12:22:46 PM PDT by ansel12
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