Posted on 09/26/2010 2:55:40 PM PDT by 0beron
Naturally, a Reformed lay preacher doesn't believe in the Eucharist. Never the less, the old liberal Gaga-Priest brought him to receive and distribute communion.
[kreuz.net, Bern] On Swiss Thank-, Penance- and Bed Day, which occurs on 19th of September, Father Gregor Tolusso (45) held a ceremony with the Reform Minister, Manfred Stuber, at the Trinity church in Bern.
The Liturgical Abuse was carried live by "Swiss Television".
Stuber is the leader of the Reformed Holy-Ghost-Church in Bern. The Trinity Parish is the largest community in the Diocese of Basel.
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Here’s the link to the thing at gloria tv in German, but you can see what’s basically going on:
Rather, the Reformed and Catholics don't have the same understanding of the Eucharist. It would be wrong for a Reformed minister to participate in the Catholic Eucharist, but this blogger has a very sloppy way of expressing things that only causes more trouble.
No, really he’s right. The Reformed do not believe in the Eucharist. There is no belief in the Real Presence among the Reformed. If there is no belief in the reality of Christ’s flesh in the Eucharist, then there’s no belief in Eucharist.
> The Reformed do not believe in the Eucharist
I beg to differ. Lutherans most certainly do believe in the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. Luther, (a Catholic monk pre-Reformation) said so himself.
You wrote:
“I beg to differ. Lutherans most certainly do believe in the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. Luther, (a Catholic monk pre-Reformation) said so himself.”
I don’t call Lutherans “Reformed”. I restrict the use of that term to the followers of Calvin. Sorry if you were confused. I probably should have said “Calvinists”.
You wrote:
“I beg to differ. Lutherans most certainly do believe in the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. Luther, (a Catholic monk pre-Reformation) said so himself.”
I don’t call Lutherans “Reformed”. I restrict the use of that term to the followers of Calvin. Sorry if you were confused. I probably should have said “Calvinists”.
It is a Protestant holiday which began as a way to telescope the Catholic holidays of the Name of Mary, the Exaltation of the Holy Cross and others into one day.
The Reformed have the word "reformed" in the name of their church.
The Protestants may or may not say anything about it, but it will never say RC.
Everybody who wants to be an Evangelical can say that, even Catholics these days.
Depending on other factors the folks with "Apostolic" in their title who are NOT Catholic, mean the Deacons give the orders! If they are Catholic, the Deacons still give the orders but within the framework of a church hierachy, and only to each other.
Then, the big one "HOLINESS" ~ not quite sure how that all breaks down but when I was a kid we had the Holy Spirit RC church on one corner and the Pilgrim Holiness on the other corner.
Stayed away from both of them until I figured out that "Holiness" usually never means the same thing as "Holy Spirit", but sometimes it's close.
BTW, we had Syrian Orthodox in the area, and Syrian Catholics, so I knew that among the "hatted hierarchy" there were differences anyone could see. Those guys were married of course.
Khnowing all of that let me say this about that, don't count on any two Christians understanding the same terms in the same way ~ NOT EVER.
The background discussion on this thread lost me because I couldn't tell what was being talked about ~ was it a Protestant Communion or a Catholic Eucharist, and if Protestant, what kind, and if Catholic, was someone in this Orthodox perhaps (detecting some temporal dilation effects due to the translation software)?!
Let me tell you as a general practice I never participate in Communion at any church but my own! It's "closed" more or less, and everybody sits down and passes the plates and the wine.Ecumenical with those guys means someone from an Independent Christian Church!
That is why we have to pray for the full unity of ALL believers in the body of Christ!
I looked it up. It’s actually non-sectarian at least in Switzerland, and I thought the Bett- referred to the great plague of 1639. Sorry for the confusion.
Here’s the article:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidgen%C3%B6ssischer_Dank-,_Buss-_und_Bettag
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