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Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
I see now. Thanks.
Amen. Christ, the author and finisher of our faith.
My husband says that Christianity is Judaism with a happy ending.
I like that one, too. 8~)
And I'm just saying, tell me the men's stories or I can't try to give you an answer.
I think they must have missed classes
Mockery 101
Mockery 201
Mockery 301
in the VATICAN ALICE IN WONDERLAND SCHOOL OF DISCIPLESHIP AND REALITY MANGLING.
They’ve just taken a workshop or maybe 2 here and there.
I think they need more practice before they hit the road.
I LOVE YOUR HUMOR AND WIT.
I think you need to write that car trip up for some RC church blog or paper or some such.
Or better yet, a children’s book.
Good one. Here's one of my favorites:
An old Jewish man, revered by his community dies. Everyone mourns and talks of his long, happy and righteous life. He gets to Heaven; he's wailing, tears flow down his face in rivers.
St. Peter can't console him, calls God over.
God says, "My child, what causes you such pain and anguish?"
"I did my best to love you, God," the old man says.
"Yes," God replies, "you did your best."
I was honest in all my dealings, I gave to the poor, I welcomed the stranger, I observed the Sabbath, everything, studied the Torah.."
"Yes, my child, but what what travails you so?"
"It is my boy, my son," the old man answered, "my only son - he ran off and became Christian."
"Ahh," God sighed, "I know just how you feel."
Yeah. There was a lot sobering in that article.
I was saddened yet again.
The link was included.
Let me find it again for you. I goofed in not previewing that part enough to correct it. I could scroll right and read it, however.
Here’s the link:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_rcc.htm
Okay. How about this.
Two twins were raised in the same household, by the same parents. For all intents and purposes, their “stories” are remarkably similiar. What happened to one, happened to the other.
Yet one becomes a believer in Jesus Christ and the other one does not.
What is the difference in these two men? Is one twin smarter, more pious? What accounts for the different choices?
lolol. 8~)
I usually over-slept and missed class.
8~)
No problem.
Happy to carry your load in that dept.
LOL.
It certainly is fun to watch them embrace/dismiss/embrace/dismiss Augustine and dozens of other church fathers who disagree/agree/disagree/agree with them.
Would make a great Monty Python skit . . .
revolving door and all . . .
or in the New International Protestant version asIsaiah 45 (King James Version)
Isaiah 45
1Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
2I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:
3And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.
4For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
5I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
6That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
8Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.
9Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?
10Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth?
11Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.
12I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” yet in the New International Version reads as "I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things."Isaiah 45 (New International Version)
Isaiah 45
1 "This is what the LORD says to his anointed,
to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of
to subdue nations before him
and to strip kings of their armor,
to open doors before him
so that gates will not be shut:2 I will go before you
and will level the mountains [a] ;
I will break down gates of bronze
and cut through bars of iron.3 I will give you the treasures of darkness,
riches stored in secret places,
so that you may know that I am the LORD,
the God of Israel, who summons you by name.4 For the sake of Jacob my servant,
of Israel my chosen,
I summon you by name
and bestow on you a title of honor,
though you do not acknowledge me.5 I am the LORD, and there is no other;
apart from me there is no God.
I will strengthen you,
though you have not acknowledged me,6 so that from the rising of the sun
to the place of its setting
men may know there is none besides me.
I am the LORD, and there is no other.7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the LORD, do all these things.8 "You heavens above, rain down righteousness;
let the clouds shower it down.
Let the earth open wide,
let salvation spring up,
let righteousness grow with it;
I, the LORD, have created it.9 "Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker,
to him who is but a potsherd among the potsherds on the ground.
Does the clay say to the potter,
'What are you making?'
Does your work say,
'He has no hands'?10 Woe to him who says to his father,
'What have you begotten?'
or to his mother,
'What have you brought to birth?'11 "This is what the LORD says—
the Holy One of Israel, and its Maker:
Concerning things to come,
do you question me about my children,
or give me orders about the work of my hands?12 It is I who made the earth
and created mankind upon it.
My own hands stretched out the heavens;
I marshaled their starry hosts.13 I will raise up Cyrus [b] in my righteousness:
I will make all his ways straight.
He will rebuild my city
and set my exiles free,
but not for a price or reward,
says the LORD Almighty."
6Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?yet in the NIV is
6 When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble? When disaster comes to a city, has not the LORD caused it?If you read the same in Lamentations 3, in the KJV it reads as:
30He giveth his cheek to him that smiteth him: he is filled full with reproach.The King James Version of Lamentations 3:38 seems to suggest that God speaks both good and evil. However, if one reads the verse in context, the preceding verses indicate that God does not do or approve of evil.
31For the LORD will not cast off for ever:
32But though he cause grief, yet will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies.
33For he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men.
34To crush under his feet all the prisoners of the earth.
35To turn aside the right of a man before the face of the most High,
36To subvert a man in his cause, the LORD approveth not.
37Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not?
38Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?
39Wherefore doth a living man complain, a man for the punishment of his sins?
40Let us search and try our ways, and turn again to the LORD.
Honestly, the best I can think of is one has had enough - and I'm not talking about grace - and the other has not. If they are absolutely completely identical in every regard this would happen at the same time.
I should point out that experiences or events are only part of it. Their choices and reactions to these are at least half of it.
Here’s one of the better articles I ran across.
http://roman-catholic-schools.com/RCC_SexAbuse.pdf
It just occured to me, though I don’t think I stated this clearly . . . Silly me . . .
that a ‘relatively’ small percentage of priests being married . . . misstated was grotesque
if so . . . what would
45% of priests being homosexual be?
LESS grotesque?
But all those articles came up in my search about married priests. That’s how that came about, at all.
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