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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: individualliberty
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To: Quix
Thanks for that comprehensive post. Lots to digest.

A NBC report on chastity and the clergy found that "anywhere from 23 percent to 58 percent" of the Catholic clergy have a homosexual orientation. 7

Author and sociologist James G. Wolfe estimated that 48.5% of priests were gay. 8

(((gasp)))

4,921 posted on 09/14/2010 10:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix

Quix:

That article by John Shuster, the married RCC priest appears on my screen as clipped off at the right; can’t make it all out. Can we find a link specific to that article?


4,922 posted on 09/14/2010 11:00:36 PM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
>>"Oh, and thanks for the link. I'm reading an article..."

means I'm reading an article at the link given in the post I'm replying to.

4,923 posted on 09/14/2010 11:01:47 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Mad Dawg

I’m not going to help my opponents draw me into a rope-a-dope. They have to do some of the work.


LOVE IT. LOL.


4,924 posted on 09/14/2010 11:02:02 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: D-fendr

The question is waaay more simple than you’re making it out to be. It’s not a trick question. Honestly. It’s a question that was asked of me and I thought it was pretty interesting.

Why does one man believe and the guy next door doesn’t?

Is one man more pious, less stubborn, more intelligent than the other guy?

Certainly all men have different experiences. But that doesn’t explain it. Some men have horrible, painful lives and they are brought to faith. Others slide by with hardly a hair out of place and they can’t be bothered.

Or the other way around.

So what is it? We’re all human. We’re all fallible. What makes one of us believe and another of us rebuff that belief? What is it about these two human beings that is different; that leads us down separate paths?


4,925 posted on 09/14/2010 11:06:50 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Original sin is the reason for the fact all men are fallen."

No, it is the means by which all men are fallen. The reason is so that we must choose and achieve Salvation.

4,926 posted on 09/14/2010 11:07:04 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Legatus

PRICELESS.

SEVERAL BELLY LAUGHS.


4,927 posted on 09/14/2010 11:07:21 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: D-fendr

But you didn’t give us the link, the post, your reply or the author of the quote.


4,928 posted on 09/14/2010 11:07:35 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Running On Empty

A car full of singing family would have been precious.


4,929 posted on 09/14/2010 11:10:58 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"So JPII loved the Koran enough to kiss it?"

What a ridiculous statement. Did you think that up all by yourself?

JPII acknowledged the Abrahamic roots of the Bran. He hated the sin, but loved the sinners.

4,930 posted on 09/14/2010 11:14:37 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Natural Law; D-fendr
No, it (original sin) is the means by which all men are fallen. The reason is so that we must choose and achieve Salvation.

That is not what Scripture says. That doesn't even make much sense.

If the "reason" all men are fallen is that we must choose salvation, and yet some men DO choose salvation, then all men are not fallen.

You've negated your own assertion.

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" -- Romans 5:12

Besides, New Advent agrees with me and Paul...

Original sin may be taken to mean: (1) the sin that Adam committed; (2) a consequence of this first sin, the hereditary stain with which we are born on account of our origin or descent from Adam.

From the earliest times the latter sense of the word was more common, as may be seen by St. Augustine's statement: "the deliberate sin of the first man is the cause of original sin" (De nupt. et concup., II, xxvi, 43). It is the hereditary stain that is dealt with here. As to the sin of Adam we have not to examine the circumstances in which it was committed nor make the exegesis of the third chapter of Genesis.


4,931 posted on 09/14/2010 11:15:39 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Certainly all men have different experiences. But that doesn’t explain it.

Different experiences, different people, different circumstances, different times of life: different choices; everyone has a story. Explains it to me.

It’s a question that was asked of me and I thought it was pretty interesting.

I find people's stories interesting, but they vary a lot. Some are similar to mine, but very few.

4,932 posted on 09/14/2010 11:15:53 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Legatus

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2578704/posts?page=4855#4855

Post 4855, I truly enjoyed reading that, thanks so much.

God bless you and your entire family.


4,933 posted on 09/14/2010 11:17:01 PM PDT by Joya
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To: Natural Law

HE KISSED THE KORAN!

A book that MANDATES the death of all Christians.

Insanity. I have more respect for the Roman Catholics who say JPII was old and enfeebled. At least that makes some sense.

To defend the indefensible only leads to more of the same.


4,934 posted on 09/14/2010 11:18:09 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

It was at the link in the post I replied to. If you’d asked for more specificity I’d have given it. Sheesh.


4,935 posted on 09/14/2010 11:18:49 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"That doesn't even make much sense."

Try reading it slowly. I can't dumb it down just for you.

4,936 posted on 09/14/2010 11:20:02 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: stfassisi; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

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4,937 posted on 09/14/2010 11:21:16 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: D-fendr

I’m not talking about people’s stories. I just want to know what you think is the reason why one man accepts Christ and another doesn’t.

That’s all. It’s not a difficult question. Think about it.


4,938 posted on 09/14/2010 11:21:38 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Natural Law

You’ve already dumbed it down and everyone who can read can see for themselves the nonsensical nature of your post.

Read New Advent. It agrees with me and not you.


4,939 posted on 09/14/2010 11:22:57 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Old Jewish saying:

God created man because He loves a good story.


4,940 posted on 09/14/2010 11:23:24 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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