Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Nah, the monkey gods are what little cults like the ones you and Quix frequent, worship. These are cults that were formed in the 20th century and will die out soon enough, while Christ’s One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church will remain, thanks to the grace of the Holy Spirit, which has protected Christ’s Cathoilc Church for 2000 years.
Good — no one should say that your grouping worships 9 godlings when your group only worships 4 —> pastor 1, pastor 2, pastor 3 and the ego.
Again, with all due respect, the Catholic Church’s Theresa is the one with the monkey gods hanging from the ceiling in the hospice where she took people to die. I don’t think the chinese worship monkey gods anyway, they worship Buddha. Hindus have monkey gods. Theology 101
The cup has been offered for some time. Prior to that there was a highly specialized Catholic Dictionary definition that both elements were present in the host.
Like no wine being served?
I can recall it being done in my parish for at least the last 30 years. It is a decision by each diocese. Some have temporarily suspended the practice during the H1N1 fears, but most are doing it.
Basically we say as listed in the Athanasian Creed. There is One God — Father, Son and Holy Spirit, in a Trinity. We are NOT unitarians who deny the TRinity and the divinity of Christ. Do you?
You are mixing up the slurry-eating demon-alien-interdimensional thingys having a war under some town called Dulce by Los Alamos.
You know, the same ones that O’Thuga gave his daughter to while the elite, ahem,... little toddler boys while the “Dracos” watch.
Ai Carumba!!!!!
And she might, but we have already entered thru the narrow door...
Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
We as Christians have a new nature...
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
It a done deal...We won't be at your judgment...
The Church teaches that all three members of the Trinity are God, not Gods. The Trinity is a mystery of faith in the strict sense, one of the "mysteries that are hidden in God, which can never be known unless they are revealed by God". To be sure, God has left traces of his Trinitarian being in his work of creation and in his Revelation throughout the Old Testament. But his inmost Being as Holy Trinity is a mystery that is inaccessible to reason alone or even to Israel's faith before the Incarnation of God's Son and the sending of the Holy Spirit.
I’m assuming everyone who is involved in this part of the “discussion” will see it so I’m not going to go ping happy.
From the old Catholic Encyclopedia online:
Strictly speaking transubstantiation is not a miracle.
Beyond that someone asked when the Roman Church reintroduced the Chalice to the laity. In theory this was an effect of the Second Vatican Council although it had occurred illicitly from time to time before the liturgical reforms of the Pauline Missal. Communion under one kind is/was a disciplinary practice of the Latin Church enacted as part of the liturgical reforms that flowed from the Council of Trent for the explicit purpose of combating heretical opinions of something called an Utraquist (some sort of Hussite I gather).
Actually the post conciliar documents still assume that Holy Communion will be administered under the species of Bread alone except for certain special celebrations. I think that was superseded sometime after I stopped paying attention to the post-post conciliar reform of the reforms of the reform. For all practical purposes Communion has been under both kinds in the Latin Church since the mid 1960s/early 1970s. The other ritual Churches have used some form of intinction (the priest dipping the consecrated Bread in the Chalice) all along though.
There’s a huge article at the old Catholic Encyclopedia site under the entry for “Communion under both kinds”... I mean HUGE HUGE.
I assure you I can name call with the best of you, yet I choose not to. When the RM earlier referenced immaturity I do believe he was correct in allowing it.
Wouldn't you rather place your fingers in the wounds?
The discussion of guidelines and the scale of inflammatory was in play and part of the and your discussion. So, I believe I'm within bounds as far as our discussion.
you have very different standards of what is “inflammatory.”
I think that's clear now, though I'd hoped you would be able to see it. My point was the same thing can be communicated in ways that seek to increase or decrease their agitation.
Fanning the flames, intentional provocation, finding the most offensive ways to communicate a point are in the wrong direction of both the forum guidelines and adult discussion and debate. This is part of the standard I would use to measure "inflammatory" on this forum.
you seem to excuse similar “inflammatory” communicationis from RC’s.
The worst I've seen are conscious attempts to mimic yours. I oppose both, but I believe if the original is cured, the mimic will disappear as well.
Thanks for your reply.
Now there's a problem...No one witnesses it...
Let's try something...Here it goes...I'll pretend my old truck will turn into a Cadillac Escalade...
There, it's done...Do you see it??? Ain't it pretty...It's fast too...Want a ride???
There's your transubstantiation...
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