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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: OpusatFR

I have no idea. Nobody ever addressed that in the Catechism classes I attended.


2,941 posted on 09/09/2010 2:15:46 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Christianity and Neo-Liberalism
The Spiritual Crisis in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and Beyond
by
Paul M. Elliott

describes it pretty well where this ex-Leading Elder of the OPC says

He also documents how consistently the neo-liberals and their moderate allies have made the OPC safe for the promulgation of such soul destroying errors. He sets forth how corrupt manipulation of ecclesiastical politics has prevented any of these false teachers from ever being effectively called to account for their apostasy. All presented with both the Biblical conviction of a true believer and the dispassionate arguments of the trial lawyer this indictment of the OPC grows weightier and weightier page by page. As the reader sits in the jury box he is more and more compelled to register his vote as guilty on all counts as charged.

The final chapter, chapter 10, is a call to separate from the OPC, a denomination that has forsaken the historic gospel, has repudiated the real authority of Scripture, and has become a save haven for false teachers. Having lost the marks of a true church Elliott passionately presents the Biblical commands to separate from apostasy and build a new church on sound and Biblical principles.
So, another splitty-split in the OPC, a quick demise. That's normal. It's time for Satanic spawned cults to die quicker
2,942 posted on 09/09/2010 2:16:27 PM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: OpusatFR; Quix
The Harvard professor, Mack, did intensive research into the phenomenon and concluded that there was sufficient reason to believe the beings reported so frequently all over the world and in different eras, were hostile beings from another dimension.

There is theological discuss from several religions, Vedic, Hebrew, Christian, to support the theory

2,943 posted on 09/09/2010 2:16:45 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings
it appears you can spell when you want to

That may have been a 'cut and paste'...

2,944 posted on 09/09/2010 2:16:52 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: metmom
"Nobody has witnessed anything."

I have witnessed it hundreds of times. Are you calling me a liar?

2,945 posted on 09/09/2010 2:17:32 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Quix
Quix:

THE LORD

HAS TRAINED ME RELENTLESSLY BEST TO DO

IS

BE A VERY VIVID MIRROR TO FOLKS WHO ARE ALLERGIC TO MIRRORS.

What brazen
unmitigated
UNBiblical
arrogance!
Displayed by
the
followers of Sister Aimee McPherson
In
The FourSquare Cult
with their brothers
in
The Cult of Machen, the OrthoProsbotarians
?


What an
ABSURD
HILLARIOUS
(YET PATHETIC)
!FARCE!
&
BRAZENLY
FALSE

ASSERTION!

2,946 posted on 09/09/2010 2:18:24 PM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: Iscool

probably huh


2,947 posted on 09/09/2010 2:18:27 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: metmom
"Why doesn't the Catholic church serve BOTH elements of communion to its adherents as Christ did with His disciples and commanded us to take both the bread and the cup?"

We do.

2,948 posted on 09/09/2010 2:18:43 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: metmom

Maybe you’d better read up on reception of communion.


2,949 posted on 09/09/2010 2:20:42 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Cronos

So, does the Catholic church teach that there are three gods together who form the godhead since one is not the other, or does it teach that there is one God expressed in three different ways, since there is one God and they are each other, or both or neither?

And does it teach that one must understand the plurality of the Godhead being three in one in order to be saved? Or that anyone is even capable of really understanding what God is trying to explain to us in His description of Himself being three personas in one?


2,950 posted on 09/09/2010 2:20:47 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: caww

That is good — you believe in the Trinity and the details of the Church as encapsulated in the Nicene Creed. You cannot then be clubbed with any grouping of Unitarians. That’s the tricky thing here — there are Unitarians and other kooky religious cults out there with posters masquerading as Protestants and saying they speak for all Protestants when they themselves are not even Christian.


2,951 posted on 09/09/2010 2:21:02 PM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: metmom
"I have no idea. Nobody ever addressed that in the Catechism classes I attended."

And you claim to have been an adult RCIA teacher?

2,952 posted on 09/09/2010 2:21:30 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: caww

and it depends on what Quix means by “PRoddys” — I’ve never heard the term and evidently it seems to include all non-Christians, anti-Catholic groups, so evidently “Proddy” <> Protestant.


2,953 posted on 09/09/2010 2:22:37 PM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: metmom
"So, does the Catholic church teach that there are three gods together who form the godhead since one is not the other, or does it teach that there is one God expressed in three different ways, since there is one God and they are each other, or both or neither?"

Is this a serious question?

2,954 posted on 09/09/2010 2:23:11 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Natural Law

Someone failed Theology 101.


2,955 posted on 09/09/2010 2:25:03 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: 1000 silverlings; OpusatFR; Quix; caww

Satan can appear as an angel of light. Angels can appear in this material world.

It’s entirely feasible that demons, (fallen angels) could appear in any form they wish if it suits their purpose. And if they wish to deceive people by making them think it’s alien abduction or UFO’s, what’s it to them if they can keep people from turning to the living God and being saved from being damned with them for eternity?

CS Lewis in the Screwtape Letters, does a masterful job with giving insight into the possible methods of he enemy. As he maintains, Satan would have us live a comfortable life and die a comfortable death if it can keep us from ever being shaken out of our stupor to seek out God.


2,956 posted on 09/09/2010 2:26:11 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
well dont forget Mary who gave birth to one of them, so in essence had to have birthed all of them
2,957 posted on 09/09/2010 2:26:46 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Natural Law

You’ve see a white wafer made of wheat turned into actual flesh and real blood?

You eat literal raw human flesh and drink raw human blood when the priest hands out communion?

It isn’t in appearance a round white wafer he puts in your mouth?


2,958 posted on 09/09/2010 2:28:17 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; Quix

yes, plus Satan is “the Lord of the air” and if UFOs or Marion apparitions are in the air he could be the author of lying wonders


2,959 posted on 09/09/2010 2:28:45 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Natural Law

When did they start that?

All the priest ever did for decades was just give people a round white wheat wafer. No one ever handed anyone a cup to drink out of.


2,960 posted on 09/09/2010 2:29:25 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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