Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
What the Church teaches about veneration and worship and The Holy Trinity is very clear.
No.. it was not about the Passion.....it was talking about how he grew up.....”He grew up before Him like a tender shoot and like a root out of a dry ground, (which is not attractive), He had no beauty or majesty to attract us.” Is53:2
The Hebrew word “beauty” is translated “fine-looking” and also used of David in ISa 16:18.
Nothing in His appearance that we should desire Him.. and is well accepted that Christ’s apperance would not be found attractive....all through the new testament we see people attracted by the ‘words’ He spoke.....nothing about how he looked....because God knows the heart of mman that they indeed make judgements by appearances...it is not surprising Jesus would not be attractive in the physical sense. It would have distracted from His message...
From what I've read Christians during the Apostolic Era and immediately following it held services on both Saturday and Sunday. I believe the controversy kicks in with a pagan emperor setting a specific date.
I sometimes use it for the references it provides and then go to them, but it's very verbose and does not take much care in accuracy of doctrine. For key terms and doctrine where you might find reason for debate, I go to the Catechism to be certain of accuracy.
ditto
BOTH TEACHINGS AND PRACTICES, BEHAVIORS
DIFFER
WITHIN THE SYSTEM
AND CERTAINLY WITH SCRIPTURE.
EVEN IF THEY HAD A Catechism 100,000 pages thick and Encyclicals stacked to the moon SUCH COULDN’T undo what Proddys see with our own eyes in the lives of RC’s in our faces.
. . . as well as hereon . . .
I wouldn't be surprised especially if it's in Europe. If size and ornateness conferred status and quality it wouldn't be surprising to see competing cathedrals. I'm curious why we are so easily caught up in believing this reflects the quality of our worship and beliefs.
I'm confused. Are you saying you agree with Roamer_1 that the Lord's Day on Sunday is a violation of God's commandments?
Thank you for the link of which I will study later Old Reggie.....but I am interested in the degree of international influence the Roman Catholic Church does have...we know it has tentacles... but to where and what end they have determined I am interested in...though much has been behind the scenes, with computers etc. it has become far more difficult for these things to remain in seclusion.
Should the place of worship where Jesus is present be kept un-beautiful? What does the phrase: Goodness, Truth and Beauty mean to you. Do you believe our worship of God should be about goodness and truth but not beauty?
You beat me to it :-)
Thanks, anyway :-)
In my Biblical studies, this passage from Scripture was the “NT concealed in the OT” and was pointing to the future Passion of Our Lord.
Behold the Man.
The scales should fall from the eyes as they did for Paul that one might see the Truth which is Jesus and refrain from blasphemy.
God bless.
It’s like asking “why should we sing? Can’t God understand us talking? Why try to make our voices pretty?”
Got to take off those Rose colored glasses.
It's been said numerous times over the years, but I'll say it again. The unity among Evangelicals is our belief in The Gospel. After that we may have a lot of different opinions, but we stand united in our belief in The Gospel and because of it we are the Body of Christ.
Romans 14
(The Weak and the Strong)
1Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2One man’s faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
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If one makes salvation conditional on the day one worships, that’s an issue. Otherwise, it shouldn’t matter.
The place should be kept neat, clean, and in good repair. Beauty is secondary. It's just outward appearances.
Sometimes less is more.
Yes Sir!
You know we have missionaries who post here that are planting churches all over the world and a lot of these are run down store fronts, but The Gospel is preached and people are being saved. It's just curious that because there is a huge ornate structure people start to assume that it contains authority and truth and that isn't necessarily so.
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