Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
If you know the difference between veneration and worship, that the Church teaches that worship is for God alone and that Mary is not God, is posting what you imagine Catholics do that violates the Church's teaching the only thing you have to keep you going?
If they can afford it.
Fledgling churches are not known for having sizable bank accounts. They make do with what they have and pray that God would provide better.
Don't forget that Jesus had no where to lay His head.
And what's better? To build a edifice or to feed the hungry and clothe the poor.
Titus 2:1-2 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in PATIENCE.
James 1:19-20 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: for the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
Again...your advice is filled with wisdom...Thank you
God bless
Well, that, of course, bring up the whole idea of "fledgling churches." ;-)
I AGREE.
Though many times a brief
WRONG
is fitting to me because it at least serves notice to the lurkers that the post responding to was noticed and determined by SOMEONE to be wrong.
The words get lost in the contrary words and actions.
What if their theology says you are violating the commandments by celebrating the Lord’s Day on Sunday?
Wagglebee, I don’t think it’s an either or issue, or if the catholic church will have much say about how it goes in the future. Though you are correct, it does not weld military power, but it won’t need that if it has political power. Which it has to some degree even now.
The Pope has now come to the defense of those opposing the Koran burning...as have many mainline church leaderships...this small event has taken on a worldwide whirlwind as if a tinderbox to explode what we hope won’t happen...but we need to be aware that it could very well esculate beyond Sat. and then some. Muslims will continue to demand attention and protection....it is the “war” they have determined to win....without a shot being fired...it will be won politically.
Pres.Bo and Petraeus have both weighed in....something never done for any other religion...now why is that? and why now?
The Islamic issue will have to be addressed and find a peaceful resolution to before this esculates....but we have forgotten their agenda is to instill fear and they have accomplished this as we see the world come to their defense. When our religious leaders do so we need to surely have a heads up....what power is it that has all this in motion?..and to what end?
What church and how old?
It sure doesn't look like many Protestant churches I've been in.
Besides, some Protestant denominations still have a strong Catholic flavor. Is there something wrong with that?
“Seed” is your problem with the Church? Mary ever-virgin is your problem with the Church?
How about the divinity of Christ and Jesus is the way the truth and the light?
Any problems there?
I guess this is like the persecution of Christians thing, "you did it to, so I'm not as bad".
"Bad" is in the eye of the beholder, Catholics aren't the ones who depict statues, the lighting of candles and etc. as wrong.
I think one of the things I find oddest about many Protestants on FR is that they seem to think that their beliefs are held by most other Protestants and this is absolutely not true. As far as I can tell, the ONLY beliefs upon which Protestants are united is in their rejection of papal primacy (which they took from the Orthodox and then proceeded to mangle) and the belief in sola scriptura (though Protestant definitions of what this means are nearly as varied as the conclusions reached by its implementation).
Is celebrating the Lord's Day on Sunday one of those?
S: unbelievable, yet God says that he prefers structures not made with human hands.
Show some mercy, Pyro responded and expressed what a lot of Christians probably think. After all, all these huge, ornate, beautiful churches aren't just RC. As a Baptist, I often see the criticism of the store front churches in the run down part of town Baptist's are so famous for.
Establishing a new congregation in a city, even if it’s part of a well established denomination, does not guarantee finances to build.
Often there is short term assistance, with the new congregation providing most of the funding. It still doesn’t allow for much more than adequate facilities for a time, or while a building project is going on.
INDEED.
Oh, I know. It takes some time. Heck, the great Gothic cathedrals took centuries to build. I was more addressing the fact of the existence of other denominations. ;-)
When the Pope says "we are a Church, not a nation. When this "Church" disbands it's Diplomatic Corp and it's "observer" seat in the United Nations. Maybe then.
Today the Holy See has formal diplomatic relations with 176 nations as well as the United Nations (where it enjoys Permanent Observer status) and other international agencies and secretariats. Its ambassadors are also automatically recognised as deans of the diplomatic corps wherever they are accredited, as affirmed in 1961 by the Vienna Diplomatic Convention.
Oh, good grief. It’s both/and, not either/or.
those Baptists, no taste whatsoever. Wasn’t Spurgeon’s great cathedral in the ghastly part of London back in the day?
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