Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
++++++This may sound off base but dang it some of these writings make one think the attraction to Mary went beyond religious...and filled some other need in the life of these people....whatever it is it is not only worship but more as obsession.. and that is an understatement. Furthermore how some can even imagine that God accepts this as it clearly dethrones Christ. Just appauling in my book....
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I believe this whole Mary thing started to attract the pagans that always had a goddess.. teaching like “Mary Queen of Heaven” tend to bear that out
This UNOFFICIAL web site shows how far this goes with some..let in a little leaven and the whole loaf is leavened
http://www.mother-god.com/goddess-mother-mary.html
Haven't you heard? The Spanish Inquisition wasn't anywhere near as bad as the folks who went through it wrote about.
The now confirmed death toll of the Spanish Inquisition is:
8...
...and 1 dog.
...and one donkey, which, if one is to be fair, was not a donkey at all, but more of a burro.
; )
Gee you can not even get my name right..RNMOM OF 7
Good Catholic girls had lots of babies..
Baptized at Blessed Trinity, Buffalo NY ...now closed in "consolidation" ..Catholic grade, high and college
Active in Cursillo Womens retreats , Kairos Prison ministry , liturgy planning, CCD instruction , lectoring etc..Hey even made a marriage encounter
Then God saved me ...praise the Lord for His mercy and grace to one as lost as I
It is particulary telling that every excuse in the book is thrown at anything that is revealed to show they are and have been wrong about a great many things through the centuries. When Jesus said he would keep his church from error, he was not speaking of a manmade religion but of the true, Spirit-led body of Christ - the one he has redeemed from all nations, tongues and peoples.
Revelation 7:9-10
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
You are so right...I know what I was taught in my many years as a student in the Catholic schools, and the years I worked retreats and taught CCD.
They have simply dumbed down the doctrine for the younger generation..
Well it wasn't. Here, I'll provide an updated quote for people who are keeping track of these things:
What the Catholic Church needs today is an Inquisition. It can start with me.
It would certainly help you guys out too, there wouldn't be any question about what exactly the Catholic Church teaches or who could speak about what Catholic doctrine means.
We can leave out the torture this time around, just "Do you claim to be Catholic?", "Do you deny X?" and/or "Do you profess Y?" and depending on the answer "Well then stop calling yourself a Catholic".
Something more like:
"Talk! Will you talk!"
"But it hurts!"
"Well, loosen it up a bit, will you? Fine..."
‘Cause that's what it would be. "Tea and cake or death? Tea and cake or death? Tea and cake or death!"
The American justice system could learn a few things from reforms of Torquemada. I especially like the idea that the accused could make a list of his enemies and nobody on that list could offer evidence against him.
It wasn’t just me who was *poorly catechized* because there are scads of Catholics in the area in which I grew up who believed the same things.
And there are plenty of ex-Catholic FReepers who, unless they grew up in the same area I did, strangely believe the same what FRoman Catholics call errors.
You’d reasonably expect that if it were a result of being poorly catechized, that different areas and parishes would have different errors taught, but across the board, there are the same beliefs which all former Catholics recognize as being taught by the Roman Catholic church that FRoman Catholics say are not Catholic doctrine.
It’s the same beliefs that you guys call error. There’s too much similarity to be coincidental.
INDEED TO THE MAX.
HOWEVER, as we’ve seen relentlessly on FR, RC’s and logic have no great affinity for one another . . . after all, who needs logic when one has
THE VATICAN ALICE IN WONDERLAND SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY AND REALITY MANGLING
as the model?
HaHaHa...A Spirit filled Christian won’t embrace that book, ever...
INDEED TO THE MAX.
Blah blah blah. Scratch any of us and our ancestors were killed by another group of ancestors over something. The english killed the french,the french the english, both shot the Indians, Catholics set the Jews on fire, in the American civil war, the north killed the south and vice versa. And that’s just my family. Get over it
INDEED!
SHEESH.
Nice to see you still at least mostly rational about such! LOL.
Another endorsement of that unscriptural nonsense I see.
Since virtually nothing about Mary that was printed in that book is to be found in Scripture, we can only conclude that it is based on the RCC tradition which the Catholic church holds to be of equal standing with Scripture.
Since the book has the nihil obstat and imprimatur, which means that it contains nothing contrary to faith or morals, the only logical conclusion to be made is that that book is an accurate reflection of the teachings by Tradition of the Roman Catholic church.
Now, considering that it teaches things that are either not found in Scripture, or are in direct contradiction to the clear teachings of Scripture, I’d say the Catholic church has a problem on it’s hands.
Does it endorse a book full of lies and false teachings and idolatry? Or does it renounce the book and go back to the clear teachings of the Bible that it claims to have written?
Judging by the Imprimatur, I’d say the decision have been made.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
GUFFAWS.
Lies. Despicable, grace-denying, Holy Spirit-nullifying lies.
Lots more where that came from.
Pity.
INDEED.
Exactly...
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ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
AND ONE VERY BAD OR LYING ACCOUNTANT.
Valiant effort.
However, as we’ve seen, they seem to have no interest in THE TRUTH about much of anything.
That might be debatable, if you could somehow get all the bibles in the world into a nuclear blast...But as long as one Book of God exists, it proves you wrong...
The Church teaches:
What your church teaches is irrelevant to the truth of the scriptures...
Praise the Lord, that's all that matters.
How long was it before you knew The Gospel?
Well I viewed that site...what can I say except Mary seems to attach herself to all cultic practices in one form or another....Also did a little History...does appear in the dark ages idols were a huge part of the catholic church..brought in to attract the layperson who was steeped in various occult activities of that day...otherwise the church had nothing to offer to maintain their political power and keep the coins filling their cofferes.
I do believe we are heading for a huge push of eastern religions in this country...happening already...not to mention just read on a thread the Hartford Mayor has now invited Islamic Imans to pray before their session begins....even though they never prayed before a meeting in the past...go figure...leave a void something else will always fill it and it will never ever be what you thought .
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