[fish hawk]

Hard to believe that some who already have a ticket to Heaven want to get off the train and work their way there. That is what happens when you don’t know Bible Doctrine.

[Salvation]

Doctrine?

Pontiff Calls for Complete Fidelity to Magisterium (and Doctrine)<
Catholic Biblical Apologetics:Being Catholic & Christian:Faith and Salvation-Authoriative Doctrine
Doctrine of the Church -Social Credit: applied Christianity
The Three D's -- Dogma, Doctrine and Discipline [Ecumenical]
Mary in Byzantine Doctrine and Devotion (Catholic / Orthodox Caucus)

If the Embryo is Human, It is a Person: Vatican Doctrine Official

Or did you mean Dogma?

Preserved Sinless from the Moment of Humanity (Dogma of the Immaculate Conception) [Catholic Caucus]

The Decline of Dogma and the Decline of Church Membership
The Three D's -- Dogma, Doctrine and Discipline [Ecumenical]
Radio Replies First Volume - Dogma and reason
Radio Replies First Volume - Development of dogma
Docility (on Catholic dogma and infallibility)

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“That is what happens when you don’t know Bible Doctrine.”

We probably know the Bible better than you do if previous experience is anything to go by.

[Cronos]

On reading Scot McKnight's From Wheaton to Rome: Why Evangelicals Become Roman Catholic." as referenced in this article, he points out trends and patterns among those who have converted from Evangelicalism to Catholicism.

This is a pretty impartial book in the sense that McKnight does not evaluate the validity or give his own opinion on which is better, he just notes down the reasons given, with none of his own opinion added, so it is interesting as a statistician's question WHY?

McKnight points out that the typical convert to The Church goes through an "institutional transition" where they usually do not view themselves as converting to faith in Christ when they become Catholic; rather, they see themselves as transitioning to the fullness of the Christian faith. "In nearly every case, the convert believes that he or she has 'come home' or 'entered the fullness of the faith' or has experienced conversion to the 'truth of the Catholic faith.'"

One of the converts David Currie says

"I see my decision [to convert to RC] as a natural outgrowth of my Evangelical commitment."

or Stephen K Ray, most

"read' my way back to the Catholic Church. When I started reading books about what the church actually taught, I was forced to give up many mischaracterizations of her teachings. Indeed, I was struck by the sheer depths of the historical, and biblical arguments in favor of the Catholic faith.

Most converts from Evangelicalism, according to this book experience "a desire for transcendance"

This desire for transcendence usually takes four forms:
(1) a desire for certainty;
(2) a desire for history;
(3) a desire for unity; and
(4) a desire for authority.

(1) Certainty This desire for full knowledge of truth spurs many converts to The Church to reject what they consider to be the "doctrinal mayhem" and "choose-your-own-church syndrome". They have a desire for knowledge that they believe is possible within Catholicism but not within Protestantism.

(2) History McKnight observes that many feel a "historical disenfranchisement" with Protestantism and want to be connected to the entire history of the Christian church and not just the period since the Reformation.

(3) Unity Most converts are disturbed by the divisions and countless denominations within Protestantism. McKnight quotes Peter Cram who

describes Protestantism as "one long, continuous line of protesters protesting against their fellow protesters, generating thousands of denominations, para-churches, and 'free churches,' which are simply one-church denominations."

Converts instead look to the unity of the Roman Catholic Church.

(4)Authority
Converts are disturbed by either 1. the lack of authority in the denominations or authority vested in a pastor with no real credentials (see David Koresh) besides charisma. And in both these cases there is no tie back, the group of the pastor dies with the pastor. They prefer the authority of Christ as vested by Him in His apostles.

Finally, do note that this article is specifically about Evangelicals getting baptised into Church, not about Lutherans, Anglicans, Methodists etc.

[Al Hitan]

Hard to believe that some who already have a ticket to Heaven want to get off the train

Where does it state in Scripture "once saved, always saved, unless you become Catholic"?

[napscoordinator]

Thank God these guys have seen the light. They finally will have a chance to go to Heaven. God Bless everyone of them and welcome to the One Holy Apostolic Church!!!! The reason I know that these folks will get to Heaven is because they must attend Mass EVERY week and not when they feel like it with other religions. Plus you comment was not needed.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Hard to believe that some who already have a ticket to Heaven want to get off the train and work their way there. That is what happens when you don’t know Bible Doctrine.

AMEN!

These "Tiber" stories are fabricated PR repeated over and over as if they were somehow new and spontaneous.

The truth is four times as many RCs leave the RC church as new members enter it. The RCC is dwindling, not expanding. Parochial schools and RC seminaries are closing all across the country. People are waking up to the fact their church offerings aren't going to the poor and needy, but to pay for the legal defenses of pedophile priests.

CATHOLIC TRADITION FADING IN US
(Evangelical Protestants Now Outnumber Catholics)

[John Leland 1789]

"Hard to believe that some who already have a ticket to Heaven want to get off the train and work their way there. That is what happens when you don’t know Bible Doctrine."

The "ticket" to Heaven is the New Birth; being born again by the Spirit of God.

Unfortunately, millions of members of "evangelical" churches have never been evangelized. Millions have never experienced the New Birth.

In this apostate age, you will see plenty of evangelical church members be lured to Roman religion as well as to cults, isms, Islam, etc.

I believe Rome and Islam will even link up in the Apostasy.

[Mrs. Don-o]

That sounds like it would be an interesting analogy, but I'm not sure what it means. If you have a "ticket to heaven," and you're "on the train," how would becoming a Catholic involve getting "off" the train?

Surely it's not the new Catholic's intention to get off the train. Surely the conductor isn't tossing him off, is he?

(The analogy seems confusing.)