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Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism
TheSacredPage.com ^ | August 6, 2010 | Michael Barber

Posted on 08/07/2010 3:38:50 PM PDT by Salvation

Friday, August 06, 2010

Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism

The magazine Religion Dispatches has a new piece up by Jonathan Fitzgerald, entitled, "Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism: Under the radar of most observers a trend is emerging of evangelicals converting to Catholicism."


As he points out, there are an increasing number Evangelicals coming into the Catholic Church. In fact, while my wife and I were at Fuller we witnessed this phenomenon firsthand. Indeed, students would come up and ask us if they could follow us to daily Mass (which was celebrated at a Catholic Church down the street). I went to Mass with many fellow students who had never experienced a Eucharistic liturgy. . . and, for many of them, once they started attending they couldn't stop.

Here's the story as Fitzgerald reports it:
In the fall of 1999, I was a freshman at Gordon College, an evangelical liberal arts school in Massachusetts. There, fifteen years earlier, a professor named Thomas Howard resigned from the English department when he felt his beliefs were no longer in line with the college’s statement of faith. Despite all those intervening years, during my time at Gordon the specter of Thomas Howard loomed large on campus. The story of his resignation captured my imagination; it came about, ultimately, because he converted to Roman Catholicism.

Though his reasons for converting were unclear and perhaps unimaginable to me at the time (they are actually well-documented in his book Evangelical is Not Enough which, back then, I had not yet read), his reasons seemed less important than the knowledge that it could happen. I had never heard of such a thing. . .

. . . [M]y parents never spoke ill of the Catholic Church; though the pastors and congregants of our non-denominational, charismatic church-that-met-in-a-warehouse, often did. Despite my firsthand experience with the Church, between the legend of my parents’ conversion (anything that happens in a child’s life before he is born is the stuff of legends) and the portrait of the Catholic Church as an oppressive institution that took all the fun out of being “saved,” I understood Catholicism as a religion that a person leaves when she becomes serious about her faith.

And yet, Thomas Howard is only the tip of the iceberg of a hastening trend of evangelicals converting to Catholicism. North Park University professor of religious studies Scot McKnight documented some of the reasons behind this trend in his important 2002 essay entitled “From Wheaton to Rome: Why Evangelicals become Roman Catholic.” The essay was originally published in the Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society, and was later included in a collection of conversion stories he co-edited with Hauna Ondrey entitled Finding Faith, Losing Faith: Stories of Conversion and Apostasy.

Thomas Howard comes in at number five on McKnight’s list of significant conversions, behind former Presbyterian pastor and author of Rome Sweet Home, Scott Hahn, and Marcus Grodi founder of The Coming Home Network International, an organization that provides “fellowship, encouragement and support for Protestant pastors and laymen who are somewhere along the journey or have already been received into the Catholic Church,” according to their Web site. Other featured converts include singer-songwriter John Michael Talbot and Patrick Madrid, editor of the Surprised by Truth books, which showcase conversion stories.

Would Saint Augustine Go to a Southern Baptist Church in Houston?

McKnight first identified these converts eight years ago, and the trend has continued to grow in the intervening years. It shows up in a variety of places, in the musings of the late Michael Spencer (the “Internet Monk”) about his wife’s conversion and his decision not to follow, as well as at the Evangelical Theological Society where the former President and Baylor University professor Francis J. Beckwith made a well-documented “return to Rome.” Additionally, the conversion trend is once again picking up steam as the Millennial generation, the first to be born and raised in the contemporary brand of evangelicalism, comes of age. Though perhaps an unlikely setting, The King’s College, an evangelical Christian college in New York City, provides an excellent case study for the way this phenomenon is manifesting itself among young evangelicals.

The King’s College campus is comprised of two floors in the Empire State Building and some office space in a neighboring building on Fifth Avenue. The approximately 300 students who attend King’s are thoughtful, considerate and serious. They are also intellectually curious. This combination of traits, it turns out, makes the college a ripe breeding ground for interest in Roman Catholicism. Among the traits of the Catholic Church that attract TKC students—and indeed many young evangelicals at large—are its history, emphasis on liturgy, and tradition of intellectualism.

Lucas Croslow was one such student to whom these and other attributes of Catholicism appealed. This past spring, graduating from The King’s College was not the only major change in Croslow’s life, he was also confirmed into the Catholic Church.

Croslow’s interest in Catholicism began over six years ago when he was a sophomore in high school. At the time, Croslow’s Midwestern evangelical church experienced a crisis that is all too common among evangelical churches: what he describes as “a crisis of spiritual authority.” As a result of experiencing disappointment in his pastor, Croslow began to question everything he had learned from him. This questioning led him to study the historical origins of scripture and then of the Christian church itself. Eventually he concluded that Catholicism in its current form is the closest iteration of the early church fathers’ intentions. He asks, “If Saint Augustine showed up today, could we seriously think that he’d attend a Southern Baptist church in Houston?” The answer, to Croslow, is a resounding “No.”
 
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You can read the rest here.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiclist; converts; evangelical; freformed
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To: smvoice
I know -- the god of this world seems to hate The Church and keeps attacking it. Thank God for The Catholic Church and thanks be to His Holy Spirit for guiding it and protecting it from the evils that tries to and has tried to attack it.

Soon, all the current heresies (Calvinistic leanings, etc.) will be dead like their predecessor heresies. Praise the Lord!
381 posted on 08/08/2010 12:01:41 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: RnMomof7
I was saying that Luther removed the Apocrypha and added in the word "alone" i.e. sola.

But, no worries -- his heresy is dying out, but the sub-sub-sub-heresies that his heresy spawned are just birthed, so they (the evangelico) will die out soon.

Come to Christ's Church, be saved by the blood of the Lamb and return to the fullness of Christ. Reject the worship of the self and fake pastors and come to the worship of Christ.
382 posted on 08/08/2010 12:04:13 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
You do realise that your statement is incorrect. Many non-intellectuals are also returning to The Church, maybe you can come back too!

Come to Christ's Church, be saved by the blood of the Lamb and return to the fullness of Christ. Reject the worship of the self and fake pastors and come to the worship of Christ.
383 posted on 08/08/2010 12:05:22 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: narses; RnMomof7

Perhaps Rn can tell who is saved or not — she’s got the gift.


384 posted on 08/08/2010 12:06:00 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Cronos

Luther didn’t remove the Apocrypha. But facts are of little consequence in these “Jesus loves me more” threads.


385 posted on 08/08/2010 12:07:41 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: presently no screen name
Actually, he doesn't wear any Ancient Roman headgear. Galea are rather hot and also can cut.

And, no togas unfortunately.
386 posted on 08/08/2010 12:07:54 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: RnMomof7

Grace is a wonderful gift of love given to us by Our Heavenly Father.

As far as being “born again” goes, for me it’s a personal thing. A feeling of joy & hope I that fills my heart each time I receive Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist or when I confess my sins in the wonderful Sacrament of Confession. I feel like a new person each and every time. God is so good!!!

As far as being born again in the Sacrament of Baptism that occurs once as has been explained many times. Read chapter 3 of the Gospel according to Saint John if you want to know more.

Peace be with you always!


387 posted on 08/08/2010 12:08:27 PM PDT by TheStickman
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Oh, so you believe that Steve Ray and Scott Hahn’s lives are fabricated?


388 posted on 08/08/2010 12:10:12 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Cronos

Of course The Pope’s headgear wouldn’t cut - like the crown of thorns.


389 posted on 08/08/2010 12:18:14 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Cronos; Dr. Eckleburg; smvoice; Iscool
I was saying that Luther removed the Apocrypha and added in the word "alone" i.e. sola.

Once again he followed many before him like Jerome

It is not that he removed the books it is that the Catholic church added books they had no authority to add.. The OT was written to the Jews and for the Jews..the NT is written to the church and for the church .

Only the Jews have authority over the OT scriptures ..and the church has authority over the NT

God never transferred the authority for the OT to the church it remains to this day with the Jews..

Luther recognized the books that the Jew's declared canonical as inspired as do Protestants today

But, no worries -- his heresy is dying out, but the sub-sub-sub-heresies that his heresy spawned are just birthed, so they (the evangelico) will die out soon.

Indeed as we enter the last days there will be a decrease in the number of those saved.. and there will be a great falling away from the truth of Gods word.. (Matt 13)

The kingdom of God has never been about numbers, it has always been about His Lordship ...he tells us many will hear the gospel but few will follow ..

Yea know, I think it is the height of self worship to think we can do anything that pleases God. what we do is filthy rags , we can do nothing to earn His love, or grace or mercy .. .

Like most of my saved friends I am daily aware of my sin and how unworthy I am to be called His Child and the sister of Christ ...

On the day of my salvation I kept asking God "Why me?" Why me?" I have never stopped asking that question..there is not one thing about me worthy of His love or grace

390 posted on 08/08/2010 12:35:05 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Cronos

I think scripture tells us how we can know the saved..


391 posted on 08/08/2010 12:36:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Cronos
Soon, all the current heresies will be dead like their predecessor heresies. ,

Will you burn them at the stake like you did in times of yore? Heresies to one zealot may not be heresy to a rational person.

392 posted on 08/08/2010 12:39:56 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Cronos

I don’t need a church OR a pastor or a priest to be saved. I am saved strictly because I believe the Bible scripture that says, “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”. This may surprise you but I can actually watch football on Sunday mornings and still go to heaven.


393 posted on 08/08/2010 12:44:26 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Cronos
Soon, all the current heresies (Calvinistic leanings, etc.) will be dead like their predecessor heresies. Praise the Lord!

The non Catholics won't be dead, we'll be gone....

394 posted on 08/08/2010 12:52:35 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: TheStickman
.. Being born again is not about feelings.. we feel good on the beach, we feel good if we win money.. salvation has nothing to do with the feel good hormones..

I do not think the apostles felt good as they died for their faith ..

Feelings can be deceptive..the Mormons will tell you how they feel saved and have a warmed heart and a leading of the spirit... Jesus did not have a warm fuzzy feel good feeling in the garden as he prayed before he was arrested..

Instead of trusting our feelings, it is more profitable to trust His word..

Nicodemus,understood what jesus was saying , even if catholics do not .

3Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born againb he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” 5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

Being born of the water is our human birth...being born of the spirit is our spiritual birth...context , context , context..

Nicodemus likens it to being in the womb...Jesus responds directly to that statement and calls that being born of the flesh...being born of the water AND the spirit

This is consistent with other scripture

Eph 2 1And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— 3among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4Butb God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved

395 posted on 08/08/2010 12:58:05 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Iscool; Cronos
The non Catholics won't be dead, we'll be gone....

Because you will never get the touch' deserved with that brilliant post, mainly because they cannot know what they do not see, please allow me to touche' you by proxy! Brilliant!

396 posted on 08/08/2010 1:01:53 PM PDT by smvoice (smvoice- formally known as small voice in the wilderness. Easier on the typing!)
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To: smvoice; Iscool; Cronos
Because you will never get the touch' deserved with that brilliant post, mainly because they cannot know what they do not see, please allow me to touche' you by proxy! Brilliant!

Heresies, not heretics. The heresies will be dead, heresies are what a heretic believes. This meeting of the Mutual Admiration Society is canceled on account of reading comprehension issues.

397 posted on 08/08/2010 1:11:59 PM PDT by Legatus
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To: ansel12
You're like a dog with a bone, but you keep forgetting that thousands more Prots voted for obozo.

if there are 100 Catholics and 54 vote for obozo, and 20 Jews and 18 vote for him, and 600 Prots and 299 vote obozo, which is the group that elects him?

the prots by far, even though a mjority of the Catholics and Jews voted for him, they can't do anything by themselves, it is the Prots and only the Prots that elect him.

398 posted on 08/08/2010 1:12:50 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: presently no screen name

WELL PUT.

THX THX.


399 posted on 08/08/2010 1:16:20 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: RnMomof7

Here are your own questions, answer them please:

So then are you saved?

How do you know that?

Do you know for certain that you will leave this life and go to heaven ?

How do you know that?


400 posted on 08/08/2010 1:22:40 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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