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Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism
TheSacredPage.com ^ | August 6, 2010 | Michael Barber

Posted on 08/07/2010 3:38:50 PM PDT by Salvation

Friday, August 06, 2010

Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism

The magazine Religion Dispatches has a new piece up by Jonathan Fitzgerald, entitled, "Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism: Under the radar of most observers a trend is emerging of evangelicals converting to Catholicism."


As he points out, there are an increasing number Evangelicals coming into the Catholic Church. In fact, while my wife and I were at Fuller we witnessed this phenomenon firsthand. Indeed, students would come up and ask us if they could follow us to daily Mass (which was celebrated at a Catholic Church down the street). I went to Mass with many fellow students who had never experienced a Eucharistic liturgy. . . and, for many of them, once they started attending they couldn't stop.

Here's the story as Fitzgerald reports it:
In the fall of 1999, I was a freshman at Gordon College, an evangelical liberal arts school in Massachusetts. There, fifteen years earlier, a professor named Thomas Howard resigned from the English department when he felt his beliefs were no longer in line with the college’s statement of faith. Despite all those intervening years, during my time at Gordon the specter of Thomas Howard loomed large on campus. The story of his resignation captured my imagination; it came about, ultimately, because he converted to Roman Catholicism.

Though his reasons for converting were unclear and perhaps unimaginable to me at the time (they are actually well-documented in his book Evangelical is Not Enough which, back then, I had not yet read), his reasons seemed less important than the knowledge that it could happen. I had never heard of such a thing. . .

. . . [M]y parents never spoke ill of the Catholic Church; though the pastors and congregants of our non-denominational, charismatic church-that-met-in-a-warehouse, often did. Despite my firsthand experience with the Church, between the legend of my parents’ conversion (anything that happens in a child’s life before he is born is the stuff of legends) and the portrait of the Catholic Church as an oppressive institution that took all the fun out of being “saved,” I understood Catholicism as a religion that a person leaves when she becomes serious about her faith.

And yet, Thomas Howard is only the tip of the iceberg of a hastening trend of evangelicals converting to Catholicism. North Park University professor of religious studies Scot McKnight documented some of the reasons behind this trend in his important 2002 essay entitled “From Wheaton to Rome: Why Evangelicals become Roman Catholic.” The essay was originally published in the Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society, and was later included in a collection of conversion stories he co-edited with Hauna Ondrey entitled Finding Faith, Losing Faith: Stories of Conversion and Apostasy.

Thomas Howard comes in at number five on McKnight’s list of significant conversions, behind former Presbyterian pastor and author of Rome Sweet Home, Scott Hahn, and Marcus Grodi founder of The Coming Home Network International, an organization that provides “fellowship, encouragement and support for Protestant pastors and laymen who are somewhere along the journey or have already been received into the Catholic Church,” according to their Web site. Other featured converts include singer-songwriter John Michael Talbot and Patrick Madrid, editor of the Surprised by Truth books, which showcase conversion stories.

Would Saint Augustine Go to a Southern Baptist Church in Houston?

McKnight first identified these converts eight years ago, and the trend has continued to grow in the intervening years. It shows up in a variety of places, in the musings of the late Michael Spencer (the “Internet Monk”) about his wife’s conversion and his decision not to follow, as well as at the Evangelical Theological Society where the former President and Baylor University professor Francis J. Beckwith made a well-documented “return to Rome.” Additionally, the conversion trend is once again picking up steam as the Millennial generation, the first to be born and raised in the contemporary brand of evangelicalism, comes of age. Though perhaps an unlikely setting, The King’s College, an evangelical Christian college in New York City, provides an excellent case study for the way this phenomenon is manifesting itself among young evangelicals.

The King’s College campus is comprised of two floors in the Empire State Building and some office space in a neighboring building on Fifth Avenue. The approximately 300 students who attend King’s are thoughtful, considerate and serious. They are also intellectually curious. This combination of traits, it turns out, makes the college a ripe breeding ground for interest in Roman Catholicism. Among the traits of the Catholic Church that attract TKC students—and indeed many young evangelicals at large—are its history, emphasis on liturgy, and tradition of intellectualism.

Lucas Croslow was one such student to whom these and other attributes of Catholicism appealed. This past spring, graduating from The King’s College was not the only major change in Croslow’s life, he was also confirmed into the Catholic Church.

Croslow’s interest in Catholicism began over six years ago when he was a sophomore in high school. At the time, Croslow’s Midwestern evangelical church experienced a crisis that is all too common among evangelical churches: what he describes as “a crisis of spiritual authority.” As a result of experiencing disappointment in his pastor, Croslow began to question everything he had learned from him. This questioning led him to study the historical origins of scripture and then of the Christian church itself. Eventually he concluded that Catholicism in its current form is the closest iteration of the early church fathers’ intentions. He asks, “If Saint Augustine showed up today, could we seriously think that he’d attend a Southern Baptist church in Houston?” The answer, to Croslow, is a resounding “No.”
 
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You can read the rest here.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiclist; converts; evangelical; freformed
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To: verga

Who cares what church the individual named Clinton claims, what matters is that the Catholics voted for him, just like they did for Gore in 2000, and Obama in 2008, and the Protestants voted against Clinton and Gore, and Obama,


121 posted on 08/07/2010 7:19:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12

Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, Are not now nor have they ever been Catholic, They can call themelves whatever they like, but no Catholic calls them Catholic


122 posted on 08/07/2010 7:20:10 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: narses
They can't since their sinful pride, the sin of Satan, encourages them to posit flawed scriptural interpretations and become their own pope and theologians. Every man, or woman in the case of Episcopal /Methodist etc, his own pope with their own boastful assertions which defy the plea of Jesus that they be one.

Yet in His agony in the garden He foresaw the disobedience and pride of those as Calvin Luther and Henry who would rend asunder His one true church into the 30000+ reorganized bands of blasphemy which claim to follow His word. They have eyes but are blind ears but can't hear . No wonder His agony was so great.

123 posted on 08/07/2010 7:20:25 PM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: ansel12

Your concern is the Catholic in Name only, but you find it easier to lump false Catholics in with the real ones, It makes your bigotry easier to rationalize. That is very Christian of you.


124 posted on 08/07/2010 7:22:35 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: vladimir998

This is silly, Democrats will never end abortion, and Catholics are a Democrat constituency, by the way look at the chart in post 106.

If you want to end abortion then get a majority of Catholics to vote like the majority of Protestants.

Protestants clearly can not carry the load alone, they voted against Obama but they need help from a majority of Catholics, not a minority of them.


125 posted on 08/07/2010 7:24:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12; vladimir998
Who cares what church the individual named Clinton claims, what matters is that the Catholics voted for him, just like they did for Gore in 2000, and Obama in 2008, and the Protestants voted against Clinton and Gore, and Obama,

Vlad showed you the truth, you don't want to beleive it, your choice and you will answer for bearing false witness

126 posted on 08/07/2010 7:25:10 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: verga; ansel12
They can call themelves whatever they like, but no Catholic calls them Catholic

I thought your religion taught you to leave the judging to Christ. That one should not judge another. And I also thought that if a person was baptized in the Catholic Church, they were members FOREVER. They could leave, but they would always be Catholic. Unless they were excommunicated, which none of the Pelosi, Kerry, or Kennedy Catholics have been.

127 posted on 08/07/2010 7:25:21 PM PDT by smvoice (smvoice- formally known as small voice in the wilderness. Easier on the typing!)
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To: verga
I get that you don’t like Catholics that don’t vote like you do and you deny them the Catholic faith, but I think that the Vatican still counts them as Catholic in spite of your presumptions.

Tell me what you think is the true number of Catholics in the United States, do we take that 54% right off the top of the total that the Catholic church claims?

128 posted on 08/07/2010 7:29:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: smvoice
Politicians that vote to support abortion legislation incur automatic ex-communication (latae sententiae).

As far as judging the quote is judge not lest you be judged by the same measure.

Go ahead judge me about my stance on abortion

129 posted on 08/07/2010 7:31:32 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: verga
you will answer for bearing false witness

You renounce millions of Catholics as not being Catholics, and now you claim that knowing voting facts of American elections and sharing that everyday political information on a political forum is bearing false witness, care to explain that?

130 posted on 08/07/2010 7:33:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12
Tell me what you think is the true number of Catholics in the United States, do we take that 54% right off the top of the total that the Catholic church claims? Sure right after you tell me the exact number of chrsitian protestants we have in America. Do you count Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Jerimiah Wright, and their followers in there?
131 posted on 08/07/2010 7:34:22 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: RnMomof7
The issue is not how many that swim the tiber.... we are not concerned with numbers.. the tares are free to bundle where they choose.. "many are called but few are chosen "

Amen, Mom!

Being asked by the Pharisees when the Kingdom of God was coming, he answered them, "The Kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, 'Lo, here it is!' or 'There!' for behold, the Kingdom of God is in the midst of you."

132 posted on 08/07/2010 7:38:27 PM PDT by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: Quix

http://www.marylandmarchforlife.org/


133 posted on 08/07/2010 7:43:23 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: vladimir998
Where are you finding this junk? You can not find a more pro-life church than Southern Baptists.
134 posted on 08/07/2010 7:44:54 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: LiteKeeper

The works of the church at the time of Martin Luther were in desperate need of reform... however the theology did not.

The concept of sola fide... or by faith alone... has some validity as the greatest commandment of the new covenant as discussed in Matthew 22:37

However that is not the entire story... Jesus expands on the new covenant with his followers to include the following ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ from Matthew 22:39 and continues with the exultation to ‘Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.’ from John 13:34.

The Apostle Paul reinforces this concept in 1 Corinthians 13:13 by stating ‘And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.’

Going back to the original Greek... the word for love is Agape... or God’s unconditional Love.

A practicing Catholic should accept the grace of God freely given through Christ’s death and embodied by his resurrection in order to that love to help bring about God’s Kingdom such that ‘Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.’ Matthew 6:10... the Lord’s Prayer is not a passive recitation... but a call to action amongst the faithful.

Any complete discussion of the doctrine of sola fide must include a reference to the term’s only inclusion in holy scripture... James 2:24

“See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”

and finally James 2:26

“For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.”

We must have faith to accept God’s grace... but we absolutely must work to keep that light alive.

May God bless you and your service.


135 posted on 08/07/2010 7:49:02 PM PDT by rwilson99
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To: verga
Sure right after you tell me the exact number of chrsitian protestants we have in America. Do you count Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Jerimiah Wright, and their followers in there?

LOL, Yes of course. When the voting data is collected they count all those people and many more undesirables as Protestants.

When you see all that they include as Protestant it is simply amazing that the members of the Catholic church, still are far more liberal than the collection of all that fall under "Protestant".

Do you want to tell the Catholic church that they are over reporting the number of Catholics in America by counting the 54% that voted for Obama?

136 posted on 08/07/2010 7:49:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12
Since Catholics vote proabortion and are more proabortion than even the giant pool of simply "Protestant"

Well, this Catholic is staunchly Pro-Life.

You Still have not answered this. Is your statement above a fact or opinion?

138 posted on 08/07/2010 7:49:45 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: MamaB

Do you understand that the birth control pill causes early abortions in a certain number of cases? Tell me when the SBC has explained this to their members and told them that using birth control pills is sinful?


139 posted on 08/07/2010 7:50:58 PM PDT by Campion
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To: MamaB

You wrote:

“Where are you finding this junk?”

The Pill is junk. Abortafacient junk. And most Protestants heartily support its use.

“You can not find a more pro-life church than Southern Baptists.”

Yes, you can - the Catholic Church. And the Southern Baptists - sectarians who started their sect to uphold slavery and racism - don’t have a church. They have a sect.

1989; “WHEREAS, the messengers to the annual meetings of the Southern Baptist Convention during the past decade have repeatedly reaffirmed their opposition to legalized abortion, except in cases where the mother’s life is immediately threatened;”

So, the SBs are all in favor of murdering innocent children if they think the mothers are in danger.


140 posted on 08/07/2010 7:58:40 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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