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To: GonzoII

[’And she is the Mother of God.’]

God preexisted the earth, Mary was a daughter of the race of Adam and therefore did not pre exist the earth. Jesus the Christ did pre exist the heavens and the earth and created all of the heavens and the earth according to the Scriputes.
12Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

13Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

14In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

19For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

20And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

21And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

23If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;


19 posted on 07/25/2010 5:39:29 AM PDT by kindred (Come, Lord Jesus, rule and reign over all thine enemies from Zion, the chosen nation.)
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To: kindred

Jesus is God. Mary is His mother. Mary is the Mother of God. If Mary is not the Mother of God, then Jesus is not God and there is no Trinity. That would make Christianity a sham and a lie.


32 posted on 07/25/2010 6:46:57 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: kindred
What's that?

Mary was a daughter of the race of Adam and therefore did not pre exist the earth.

You might want to re-think that claim in light of Ephesians 1:4 ...?

Cheers!

59 posted on 07/25/2010 8:25:19 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: kindred
"...and the earth according to the Scriputes."

You have made the same classic mistake so many Protestants and other non-Catholics have made by analyzing the Catholic Church through a Sola Scriptura lens. While the Church believes that 100% of Scripture is the divine revealed WEord of God it does not accept or teach that Scripture contains 100% of the revealed Word. Understand this premise and you will better understand Catholics. Ignore it and you will bang your head against the "Rock" forever without ever changing it or you.

67 posted on 07/25/2010 9:04:25 AM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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