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To: kindred
"Mary was not crucified for our sins"

Who said she was. Source? She indeed suffered with Christ beneath the cross.

And she is the Mother of God.

Lk 1: 43"And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? "

14 posted on 07/25/2010 5:17:07 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII; kindred; Quix
And she is the Mother of God.

Lk 1: 43"And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? "

This highlights another problem with Catholicism - it's sloppy approach to theology.

Saying that Mary is the "mother of God" confuses the Persons of the Trinity, and comes dangerously close to a Sabellian-like heresy with regards to the Trinity.

16 posted on 07/25/2010 5:25:42 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: GonzoII

[’And she is the Mother of God.’]

God preexisted the earth, Mary was a daughter of the race of Adam and therefore did not pre exist the earth. Jesus the Christ did pre exist the heavens and the earth and created all of the heavens and the earth according to the Scriputes.
12Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

13Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

14In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

19For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

20And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

21And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

23If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;


19 posted on 07/25/2010 5:39:29 AM PDT by kindred (Come, Lord Jesus, rule and reign over all thine enemies from Zion, the chosen nation.)
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To: GonzoII
[She indeed suffered with Christ beneath the cross.]

But not for our sins as Christ Jesus did and she did not rise again the third day having defeated death, hell and the grave and later ascend into the heavenlies and sit at the right hand of the Father from where He will come to judge the quick and the dead.
The roman church and the Scriptures differ substantially and God will have His way as the judgment seat of Jesus Christ our Lord will make clear in that day. Jesus Christ is Jehovah God and preexisted the heavens and the earth and all flesh and the angels in heaven, Mary was of the line of Adam and Eve and was not conceived by the Holy Spirit but was virgin mother of the body that God the Word indwelt to suffer and die and rise again the third day in order to defeat death, hell and the grave and him that has the power of death, the devil Lucifer. John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

24 posted on 07/25/2010 5:54:26 AM PDT by kindred (Come, Lord Jesus, rule and reign over all thine enemies from Zion, the chosen nation.)
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To: GonzoII

Oh my, you can’t be serious.
Confusing the words “Lord” with the word “God”!
Context! Act 2:34 (a quote from Psalm 110:1)
“The Lord said unto my Lord, sit on My right
hand, until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Jehovah (God) is saying to Adonai (David’s Lord=
Messiah) sit on My right hand. Lord means master
or boss. God means God. They are not always
interchangeable. Context “Mary was the mother
of my Lord (the Messiah) she was in no way
the mother of God. See the trouble the followers
of Athanasius get into with their mythical beliefs.
The Messiah had to be a man to save man.
By the first Adam all men fell, by the second Adam
all men are given a chance for everlasting life.


27 posted on 07/25/2010 6:12:01 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: GonzoII
How many times have the Evangelicals been told that Catholics do not worship Mary, do not believe their own good woks save them and that the Jews deliberately omitted the Deuterocanon since it facilitated too many conversions to Christianity. If you look at most of their inane responses it is apparent they do not possess the requisite intellectual capability to intelligently address these points.

The spiritually bankrupt are full of their own sinful PRIDE allowing their own contrived interpretations to overrule doctrines given to us by the Holy Spirit. God forgives them since they don't fully comprehend His sacred message and the revelations will be made to them at their death. These post are old and never change.

The Pope should broach the subject of the Brits returning confiscated Catholic churches stolen in the 16th century. This would be a excellent opportunity for the Anglicans to practice expiation something that is mandated in the Bible. Perhaps make it a sign of national public penance.

29 posted on 07/25/2010 6:30:11 AM PDT by bronx2
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To: GonzoII
And she is the Mother of God.

Lk 1: 43"And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Now that's not what was said, is it??? She didn't say the mother of my God should come to me...

Your religion, as usual, has added to the scriptures and tries to pass it off as scripture...

You DO know what God says about adding to His scriptures, don't you???

92 posted on 07/25/2010 10:36:19 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: GonzoII

Sorry to disillusion you, but, God does not have a mother.


193 posted on 07/25/2010 5:23:23 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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