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Alleged Vatican Official Says Extraterrestrials Are Real
The Eponymous Flower ^ | 07/08/2010 | Tancred

Posted on 07/08/2010 8:54:20 AM PDT by 0beron

Edited on 07/08/2010 9:57:44 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

"Vatican Officials" say a lot of things. This man who is said to be an expert in demonology also claims to be an expert on the phenomenon of intelligent extraterrestrial life. We say they are supernatural in origin and the appearance of strange and foreboding lights in the sky are unfavorable signs.

Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a theologian member of the Vatican Curia (governing body), and an insider close to the Pope, has gone on Italiannational television five times, including recent months, to proclaim that extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. Balducci provided an analysis of extraterrestrials that he feels is consistent with the Catholic Church's understanding of theology. Monsignor Balducci emphasizes that extraterrestrial encounters "are NOT demonic, they are NOT due topsychological impairment, they are NOT a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully." Since Monsignor Balducci is a demonology expert and consultant to the Vatican , and since the Catholic Church has historically demonized many new phenomena that were poorly understood, [Like the historical propensity for the press to be leftist deceivers who herald new phenomena like Communism as saviours of mankind.] his stating that the Church does not censure these encounters is all the more remarkable.

Balducci revealed to a visiting American professional that the Vatican is closely following this phenomenon quietly. My informant originally surmised that the Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nunciatures (embassies) in various countries.


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MORE somewhat random excerpted gleanings from Linda Moulton Howe's website: earthfiles.com

FROM:

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1728&category=Environment

. . .

High Strangeness Letters from Viewers

© 2010 by Linda Moulton Howe

 

“I found myself standing in the center of the road in a shaft of light 
about 5 feet wide, about 6.5 to 7 feet high and it was square-shaped.
The light was clear and pure, the most pure light I have ever seen.” - Idaho Dairy Truck Driver

 

 

July 9, 2010  Albuquerque, New Mexico - Toward the end of June 2010, I received a long, hand-written letter via U. S. mail and a typed letter by FAX. After reading each one, I put them in a special file to share with Earthfiles viewers. If anyone reading these accounts has had similar experiences or has insights about what has occurred, please email:  earthfiles@earthfiles.com. All requests for confidentiality are honored.

 

1)  8-Page Hand-Written Letter, June 15, 2010, Crawford, Texas
[ Don't have home internet service to email, so am hand writing
because this might hopefully be helpful for something.]

“My name is ---  and I have lived in Crawford, Texas, the last 18 years and have had several UFO sightings that I would like to share with you. The last one was during the summer of President Bush's last term as president. My husband and I always loved to watch for President Bush's helicopter whenever we would see the flash on our local TV channels that the President had landed at the TSTC Waco Airport (Texas State Technical College) and then we would go outside and look for all the helicopters to come by over our house from his ranch.

. . .
. . .

This time it was around 10 PM and dark and as we were outside looking up towards the east, I suddenly noticed a white ball of light right across the street in the pasture at tree level - just silently hovering. [ Editor's Note: No size of light given by Crawford writer, but often other sighting estimates are 6 to 12 inches in diameter.] I yelled at my husband to look at it as I started walking towards it and as I did, the light came around this tree to look at me. It was simply a ball of light. There was no 'body' of any kind. When the light did that, it scared us and we started back to our house and it followed us into our yard and we ran inside. I tried to observe it through the windows and I watched it float around as if checking us out.

I watched the light go over to the neighbor's yard  and when I could no longer see it, I got one of my dogs and went outside to see what the light was doing. When it saw me, the light again started coming towards me. Then suddenly the light stopped still - just as the President's helicopter got close by. I could hear it in the distance. The ball of light then seemed to go hide under a tree branch and wait.

Then just as the three helicopters came flying over, the light began to follow directly under one of the helicopters, staying at tree top level. I watched this continue until the helicopters got out of sight and I assumed the object followed President Bush to his ranch. My husband and I were in total disbelief at what we saw and frankly did not know what to do or to whom to report it.

. . .
. . .

We ran outside to get a closer look. It was a huge, green, glowing ball of light. It appeared to be pulsating or 'breathing.' It went across the horizon at a controlled speed. It seemed to stop in mid-air and then descend down to a landing - my best guess being at or close to the President's ranch. My daughter was hysterical and I was dumbfounded. Could not believe what I had just observed.

. . .
. . .

Later a reporter came on with a live interview talking to a retired Baylor professor. He reported the same description that my daughter and I saw - adding that it clearly was NOT a comet or a meteor or a distressed plane. Then the interview was cut short. The reporter did say that military was everywhere and that they would break in later with more information. However, there were no more reports and at the 10 PM nightly news, it was treated basically as a joke.

. . .
. . .

Later a reporter came on with a live interview talking to a retired Baylor professor. He reported the same description that my daughter and I saw - adding that it clearly was NOT a comet or a meteor or a distressed plane. Then the interview was cut short. The reporter did say that military was everywhere and that they would break in later with more information. However, there were no more reports and at the 10 PM nightly news, it was treated basically as a joke. . . .

. . .
. . .

. . . I was looking towards the Lake Waco Airport direction when a large green, glowing ball of light swooshed/streaked by and then disappeared. The lady filling her SUV next to me screamed and ran over to me and grabbed me. . . .

. . .
. . .

My sister saw a similar green, glowing object at 3 AM last October when she was coming home in the early morning from a late night party. She was on that same FM 185 going towards Crawford and saw this green light. She said it was hard to tell exactly where it was, but it seemed to be very close to my house, which I mentioned earlier on the path the President use to take from the TSTC Airport frequently by helicopter. My sister said it was an oblong shape and was seemingly changing shape as she continued to watch it. Then the green light vanished.

. . .
. . .

. . . the tone/sound of his voice that made me drop what I was doing and rush outside to see him staring up. So, naturally I looked up to see what he was looking at when I saw what I saw. I had to fight myself to stay calm and not pass out or collapse. I was enveloped/over come with a strong sense of dread is the only way to explain it. I asked my husband, 'Are we really seeing what I think we are seeing?' He would not answer. It was as if he was frozen in shock. I tried to get him to run back in the house, but he would not respond. I tried to shake him/pull him - nothing worked. It was like he could not hear me or see me. My husband just kept staring up at these three spacecraft for lack of a better name. They were three in a triangle formation.

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. . .

PHOTOCOPY PIC OF PART OF LETTER WENT ABOUT IN HERE at the link above.

. . .

and remembered my 10-year-old daughter was back in the house. I suddenly feared for her safety and what she would think should she see these things. I didn't know what to do. I just felt the need to get away from them, but before I could even get back in the house, I saw three more pop up in the sky and then three more.

I ran in the house and grabbed the cordless phone and called my parents 12 miles away in Speegleville, Texas. My sister answered and I said, 'I know this sounds crazy, but I am standing in my doorway looking at a UFO/spacecraft and I don't know what to do.' She could tell by my voice that something real was happening - not a joke and about that time, one appeared directly over my house the size of a football field or larger. By that time, my daughter had walked to the door and saw the spacecraft and started crying. My sister told me to grab my daughter and 'get the hell out of there and to drive towards Mom and Dad's place and she would get our parents and meet me on the road as fast as possible.

I remember a ball of light seemed to follow us to the FM 185. I drove like a maniac trying to get away with my daughter screaming the entire time. A few miles down the road, I met my parents and sister on the road and it was almost dark. All that could be seen by then were several distant light formations in the sky. My father called the Waco Airport, the Sheriff's Department and the local TV stations. All reported dozens of phone calls about strange lights in the sky. One person at one of the TV stations claimed there was some kind of closed meeting with top military from all over the world going on at Ft. Hood that night. . . .

. . .
. . .

. . . I thought about selling my place and moving, but after hearing my co-worker say her neighbor saw the UFOs above Axtell, I figured it did not matter where I live. . . .

. . .
. . .

. . . He never discussed the incident and if I brought the subject up, he would ignore me. He never could or would account for that four hours. We divorced a short time later, but we had another strange encounter early one Sunday in 1992 or 1993 in the morning as we were trying to ride our horses. We had ridden about 1/2 mile from our house when suddenly the horses started snorting and acting crazy. Then we saw this white ball of light - probably five to six feet off the ground hovering and zig-zagging through this heavily wooded area. However, it was winter and many of the trees were bare and we could see it pretty well. It was as if the ball of light was looking for something. Then it started coming towards us, and the horses went absolutely crazy. We had to turn them around and head back home. The ball of light suddenly vanished and we made it safely home with the horses, but they stayed panicky for hours.

. . .
. . .

DIFFERENT SOURCE'S LETTER EXCERPTS FOLLOW:

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. . .

. . . 2)  3-Page Typed Letter by FAX, June 19, 2010, Caldwell, Idaho

“Attached is an experience I had many years ago. I am an 81-year-old white male. I was born the oldest of 10 children. I don't type on a computer and don't write long hand too good. . . . This happened 40 to 45 years ago, but I relive the experience today as if it were yesterday. I will never forget the light. I originally wrote the following down in December 1993.

The story I am about to explain happened in July 1966. This story is true to its finest detail. I will always remember it as long as I live.

Today as I write this, I am a 37-year-old white male. I am sober and never had an alcohol problem. I have never been on drugs of any kind.

. . .
. . .

. . . I took the half-gallon of 2% milk, which was their Wednesday order. I put the milk on the front step. On my return to the truck, I became aware that the morning seemed to be exceptionally dark. No moon and very, very quiet. I noted that there were no birds making their morning sounds, no insects or bugs. I also noted there was no traffic. I had seen no vehicles since leaving the plant.

. . .
. . .

. . .I don't know if I stepped out of the truck into the light? Or if the light just appeared as I got to the center of the road? I think the road is about 40 to 50 feet wide. I found myself standing in the center of the road in a shaft of light. The shaft was about 5 feet wide, about 6.5 to 7 feet high and it was square-shaped. The light was clear and pure, the most pure light I have ever seen. I have never seen a light that clear and pure ever in my life. The shaft was square and straight as a string and I could see that it originated straight down 10th Street through the golf course straight past the dog leg to about Grant Street. That id a distance of about 1,500 yards and the pure, clear light was straight and square the whole way.

I stood in this shaft of light wondering what was happening. First, I thought I would finish the delivery and come back to see if the shaft of light was still there. Thinking better of it, I stood still. The light was not a vehicle nor did it move in any way as a vehicle would. Also, the silence was deafening and it seemed I was all alone in this great, big world. Somehow I didn't feel that at this point I was too much in danger. The light was not warm nor was it cold, but pure. It reminded me of the 'welding' color with no movement at all. To my knowledge, I had never heard of such a square shaft of light that was this square for this long and this pure.

Then I took my left arm and extended it outside the wall of the shaft of light. To my astonishment, I found the light never extended to lighten the arm outside the 'wall' of the shaft. The left arm portion outside the wall of the light was black as night. The shaft of light was as different as if the shaft were built from a solid substance. The light never illuminated anything outside of its definite structure. Neither my truck nor any part of the road had any lighting outside of this shaft of light. Up until that time, I had faced the source of light. Therefore, I turned to look behind me and found that the light extended 30 to 40 feet beyond me. I also realized at that point that my body did not even cast a shadow.

I began to become very concerned about what was really going on. . . .

. . .
. . .

. . . I was standing in the square shaft of light was about 25 to 30 seconds, long enough to give me a memory I would have the rest of my life. I was standing in the light as it began to disappear. The light began to go out from the source and I watched as it speedily came toward me. It went out just as a stream of water from a hose would if you quickly shut it off and watched the last of the water hit the target. . . .

. . .
. . .

THEN, THE END OF THAT LTR

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. . .


261 posted on 07/11/2010 1:31:34 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: WorldviewDad

CERTAINLY SCRIPTURE IS FULL OF

“FEAR NOT’s” FOR GOOD CAUSE.

GOD IS OUR HIGH TOWER, SAVIOR, PROVIDER, COMFORTER ETC.

Nevertheless, I feel an abiding . . . mandate . . . to help prepare folks for a major paradigm shift when such becomes common public knowledge with overt involvement of all such with the global government.

It is highly likely that some will become convinced enough of the truth of such phenomena to come to God and prepare their hearts and minds accordingly before that day.

Others will pay attention to what I’ve written, by God’s Grace, only after things are quite public. Many such folks may have to decide to choose God even though it means martyrdom. I pray some of my humble words thereby used of Holy Spirit will then and therefore, rescue a lot of such folks from the fires of hell.

Scripture talks about men’s hearts failing them for fear because of END TIMES STUFF.

This phenomena is going to catch a LOT of people like deer in the headlights—leaving them catatonic for minutes to hours, at best.

Prayerfully, some folks will be helped by my humble words to avoid such devastating catatonia because their hearts, minds and hopefully spirits have been somewhat prepared ahead of time with convincing details such that the details of the overwhelmingly huge, comprehensive and powerful global paradigm shift will not catch them flat-footed with absolutely no preparation at all.

By God’s Grace.


262 posted on 07/11/2010 1:38:53 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: stfassisi; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

You seem to forget . . .

it was the

MOST KOSHER RELIGIOUS LEADERS 2,000 YEARS AGO

SPOUTING ALL THE PRISTINE, ‘KOSHER’ MOSES + TRADITIONS STUFF THEY COULD . . .

WHOM CHRIST CALLED SONS OF SATAN.

Metmom is showing a LOT more spiritual discernment and perceptiveness on this topic than I’ve observed any of the RC’s put forward.

As the Apostle Paul noted . . .

EVEN IF AN ANGEL OF LIGHT were to preach any other Gospel, consider him accursed.


263 posted on 07/11/2010 1:42:53 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: metmom; ALASKA; A knight without armor; areafiftyone; aruanan; A South Park Republican; auggy; ...
MORE LMH earthfiles.com gleanings. Much more info and pics are at the website links though most are behind the subscribers' wall.

from:

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1647&category=Real%20X-Files

Retired U. S. AFOSI Agent Describes
Face-to-Face with Non-Human “Grey”

© 2009 by Linda Moulton Howe

 

“At the moment of eye contact with that Grey,
it was like seven different feature films started rapidly
running through my mind all at the same time with sound, temperature,
touch and 3-dimensional gold symbols superimposed over the films.”

- Retired U.S. AFOSI Agent

. . .

GREY PHOTO?

. . .

In my 1984 research files about high strangeness in the non-human phenomena, I typed the following notes after an interview with a man who had retired from the U. S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI).

. . .
. . .

. . . There was a dam upstream from a small Arizona town that was deliberately broken open by Blond aliens. I was with a unit that investigated non-human activities - we could go anywhere, anytime. And most everything that happened was covered up pretty easily. I once worked an operation in Idaho where a silver disc had crashed into a remote reservoir. Our job was to retrieve it without anyone knowing. So, we did a mild explosion to a hillside to create a ‘natural’ landslide across the only road into the area and posted warning signs.

“My unit associated the lens-shaped discs and the domed discs that have three balls underneath with the Blond types that are usually between 6 to 7 feet tall and human enough to walk crowded city streets without detection. But when you are up close to those types, the irises of their eyes are bigger than humans - more like the diameter of a nickel instead of a dime. The ones I know about were pale blue, almost like clear aquamarines. There were no black dots and lines like human eyes have. I know there are some Blonds that have gold eyes, like the Greeks. Have you ever seen the statue of Apollo in Athens? You can see those gold eyes staring at you from a long way. Eerie! Greek civilization was E. T. hybridization, I guess, by the Blonds.

. . .
. . .

. . . My unit worked through NSA's Project Sigma to communicate with the Greys because we had learned some frequencies and mathematical communications that would usually connect to the Greys. At least we could send out signals to them to try to communicate. But with the Blonds, there was no communication, except if we tried going through the Greys. I was told a long time ago those two types had a long war against each other, but now I understand even though they don't get along, they fight now mostly with their minds and cloning and the Greys will intervene sometimes on our behalf with the Blonds. . . .

. . .
. . .

The next thing I knew, I'm getting an order to chopper to a site a few miles from that town. When I get there, I have orders to report to our boss. He tells me that a Grey craft has landed not far away.

“He said, ‘It's time you understand what a telepathic download is like from one of these Greys. One has agreed to do a demonstration. I'm going to take you to some tents where the Grey is waiting in one for our signal. You'll be several meters away at the beginning and some of us will be off to the side, so you don't need to worry. It's safe, but you might faint. That's why I'm telling you this now. When you see the Grey, it has agreed to keep its feet on the ground. They prefer to float, but they know that scares the hell out of humans. It will walk on the ground and that will look like Donald Duck. This Grey is only about four feet high to your six feet, so you'll be looking down on it.

‘But remember what I'm telling you now - when that Grey gets a few feet from you, your whole body is going to want to run away. You'll feel the same fear as you would if someone had a flame thrower aimed at you. Every cell in your body is going to be screaming to run, but you can't. You've got to stand there. You'll probably feel like fainting, too, but don't! If you do, we'll catch you, but I don't want you to faint or vomit or run away. Is that clear?!

‘The next thing that happens is the Grey will start raising its eyes to look at your eyes. That's when you'll lose all control of yourself and your mind and you just need to let it happen so you'll know why humans are never going to be sitting down for coffee to talk about the universe with these guys.’

John Smith told me at that point he felt cocky and unafraid and thought his boss was being melodramatic. “I can handle it, don't worry!”

. . .

GREY PIC

. . .
. . .

. . . and a small, grey-colored being waddled out, “just like Donald Duck in the cartoons, I'm not kidding! And it kept coming straight for me with its eyes down. About six feet from me, my knees began to shake. Then my whole body started to shake and I thought I would faint. I wanted out of there! I did want to run! The only thing that kept me standing in that spot was my thinking about my boss, hearing his voice in my head and saying to myself, ‘f*** it! I'm not going to fall apart while my boss is watching.’”

What happened next completely overwhelmed John Smith. He told me that while he was trying to force his body to stop shaking, he saw the Grey head begin slowly tilting upward and could see the large, black, shiny eyes with narrow points near the center of the Grey's flat face that ballooned out as the eyes slanted up and outward.

“Linda, at the moment of eye contact with that Grey, it was like seven different feature films started rapidly running through my mind all at the same time with sound, temperature, touch and 3-dimensional gold symbols superimposed over the films. I knew my mind was trying to ask questions, but that seemed to create all the branching pieces of film in my mind - like visual answers to whatever my brain was thinking. But while those films seemed to have something to do with where the Greys came from and why they are here, I also felt like my entire mind was being transferred into the Grey's mind. If God himself asked me what was communicated by that Grey, I don't have a clue! And when it was over and the Grey lowered its eyes, I did start to faint. My boss and his men caught me. I guess I passed out because I don't remember anything more until I woke up on a cot in one of the tents.

“And that's why humans aren't going to be sitting down with Greys over coffee to learn about the universe. . . .

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. . .

[DRAWING]
An adult female's March 1982 abduction near Springfield, Missouri,
involved 6-foot-tall, blond-haired male humanoids. Illustration © by Lisa Dusenberry.
Source:  Page 288, Glimpses of Other Realities, Vol. I: Facts & Eyewitnesses.

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. . .

264 posted on 07/11/2010 2:05:35 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: stfassisi
Are you really expecting a Christian to believe that satan tells someone to pray and sacrifice for others and not for them to sin and somehow by saying this it's going to trick them into losing their soul?

Depends on who or what he's getting them to trust in. If he gets their attention and trust away from Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith,.... Yes.

If he can get people to think that the good works they are doing are going to save them, his mission is complete. They won't trust Christ because they won't think that they need to.

If he can convince them that Mary is enough, that's who they'll trust in. They won't go to Jesus, the only one who can REALLY save them.

Again, I find I have to agree with Lewis on this one. If Satan can keep you bound for hell by being fat, dumb, and happy, what's it to him if you enjoy this life and care for your fellow man and do all kinds of useless good deeds.

Jesus said to those who appealed to their good works and miracles that He never knew them. Good works may make one comfortable for a season, but since what we see is temporal and what is unseen is eternal, what is unseen is what is critical. Those who depend on good works alone to please God are going to feel good about themselves for the few years they have in this planet, will make others feel good for their few years on this planet, and then it's all over. For good.

Being that Jesus IS God He already knew what satan would do, so Jesus was NOT tempted anyway

Of course He was. The Bible tells us He was tempted.

Luke 4[1] And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost, returned from the Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the desert, [2] For the space of forty days; and was tempted by the devil. And he ate nothing in those days; and when they were ended, he was hungry. [3] And the devil said to him: If thou be the Son of God, say to this stone that it be made bread.

Hebrews 2:17-18 For this reason he had to be made like his brothers in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement forthe sins of the people. Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.

Hebrews 4:15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin.

265 posted on 07/11/2010 2:11:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix

266 posted on 07/11/2010 2:14:31 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: metmom

ABSOLUTELY INDEED!

THX.


267 posted on 07/11/2010 2:25:05 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: JoeProBono

THX THX BIG.

You sure are the master at such things.


268 posted on 07/11/2010 2:25:44 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
I guess I am still missing the point. How is post 261 preparing folks for the paradigm shift? I have read the post and see statements such as...”strong sense of dread”...”frozen in shock”...”daughter was hysterical”...”it scared us”...”screamed and ran over to me”...”had to fight myself to stay calm and not pass out”...”daughter screaming the entire time”...”started crying”...”feared for her safety”...”we divorced a short time later”...”didn't know what to do”...

Okay, people saw something...most likely something demonic in origin...and they are afraid of it. Now what? I am hearing all the “sci-fi” stuff that is spreading the fear but what about the answer to the fear? With out the answer there will be no peace, comfort, preparedness,...Salvation.

1 Peter 5:8-9 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

A roaring lion seeking a meal will cause fear but what are we to do...

James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

1 John 2:14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, BECAUSE YE ARE STRONG, AND THE WORD OF GOD ABIDETH IN YOU, AND YE HAVE OVERCOME THE WICKED ONE.

1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

We are to submit ourselves to God through faith, by His Word, resist the devil, and the devil will flee because God is greater...that message will prepare people for what is to come here on earth but more importantly will prepare them for eternity.

God bless

269 posted on 07/11/2010 2:52:35 PM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: metmom

“”Depends on who or what he’s getting them to trust in.””

If you’re praying and denying oneself for the good of others you’re being Christlike. It’s beyond me how you could think the devil would want someone to be like thi

“”Of course He was. The Bible tells us He was tempted..... and various Bible quotes””

If you think the verses you quoted means that Jesus had any inclination to sin by being tempted by the devil this would make him imperfect.Do you realize how heretical this is,dear sister? Chalk up anther grave error in understanding scripture on your own!

Someone could try and tempt you to jump off a bridge but I highly doubt you would even consider doing it,therefore the tempter had NO effect or ANY chance of getting you to jump.

Christ knew EVERYTHING about the devil from eternity.

You seem to have trouble grasping this?

I have limited time to post til later this week due to busy schedule.

I wish you a Blessed Evening ,dear sister!


270 posted on 07/11/2010 2:53:15 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: JoeProBono; wolfcreek; FarmerW; small voice in the wilderness; Sam Cree; happygrl; YHAOS; Hulka; ...

The following link is one of the most affirming I’ve ever read on the topic—at least in my near time experience.

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1574&category=Real+X-Files

I do believe it is behind the subscriber firewall. And most of it is a set of photocopies pages from purportedly two high ranking government types who got in touch with one of LMH’s Christian colleagues/researchers.

These govgt types affirmed the Christian’s, Vallee’s and by extension, my own assessments that the critters are evil, in cahoots with the evil one and manipulating humans wholesale etc.

I would encourage all with an interest (& the resources) in the topic to subscribe to LMH’s website and read the letter at the above link.

I won’t be retyping from the letters beyond maybe . . . let me see . . . a few sentences . . .

. . .

. . .forces being utilized by NHEs {NonHuman Entities} to interact with us in a bizarre, confusing manner, designed to divert us and draw our attention from the true purpose of their actions: manipulation and deception.

. . .

. . .(craft is not an appropriate term as they do not need to travel via a propulsive device),

. . .

. . . however, the origin is not extraterrestrial . . .

“Please refer to the works of the late Dr. Kurt Koch, works by C. Fred Dickason, Merrill Unger, Tal Brooke, and Dr. Neal Anderson as good contemporary authorities, and for more historical background consult Reginald Thompson’s “The Devils and Evil Spirits of Babylonia”; Edward Langston’s “Essentials of Demonology”; Deacon & Walker’s 1601 work, “Dialogicall Discourses of Spirits and Devils, Declaring Their Proper Essence, and Emil Schneweis’, “Angels and Demons According to Lactantis.” . . . “

. . . The NHEs being dealt with in our psi weapons development . . . are neither benovelent nor neutral. It was our feeling that very few could understand or accept this.

Explore Vallee’s “Passport to Magnolia” again, for more close parallels between ‘faerie’ manifestation of the NHEs, and current events. And look very closely at “Messengers of Deception.” Dr. Vallee was so close to the truth of the situation, with the exception that the ultimate manipulators are not human.


end.


271 posted on 07/11/2010 2:58:49 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

Sounds to me like a demonic meeting...the preparation for the deception.


272 posted on 07/11/2010 3:03:32 PM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: Quix
according to some government officials, SOME of the “ET’s” can take a “soul” out of a human and put it into...

Crackpots! I wonder how many tax dollars that goofy research must have cost

273 posted on 07/11/2010 3:07:25 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Quix; stfassisi
ASSUMING for a moment that such IS possible—very debatable, I’d think—but let’s assume it is possible—I don’t think God would allow such with those who have accepted Christ’s Blood as their Salvation and covering. WE ARE HIS AND HIS ALONE.

AMEN, Quix!

"For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God." (Colossians 3:3).

If we are saved, our life is safely protected with Christ in God. In order for anyone or anything to try to affect that life, they would have to go through Christ and God the Father to get to that life.

Chance of someone or something stealing that life from God? We KNOW the answer to that!!

274 posted on 07/11/2010 3:15:30 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: metmom; stfassisi
It's the ageless quest of vanity

I WILL

I CAN

I.. I.. I.

He neither needs nor wants our help. If that were the case, Christ need not have died. What He wants is our FAITH. IN THE FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST

275 posted on 07/11/2010 3:23:46 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: stfassisi
If you’re praying and denying oneself for the good of others you’re being Christlike

I WILL

I CAN

I...I...I...

276 posted on 07/11/2010 3:27:47 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: WorldviewDad

James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

1 John 2:14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, BECAUSE YE ARE STRONG, AND THE WORD OF GOD ABIDETH IN YOU, AND YE HAVE OVERCOME THE WICKED ONE.

1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

We are to submit ourselves to God through faith, by His Word, resist the devil, and the devil will flee because God is greater...that message will prepare people for what is to come here on earth but more importantly will prepare them for eternity.


AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


277 posted on 07/11/2010 4:11:02 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: WorldviewDad

AGREED.


278 posted on 07/11/2010 4:11:51 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

AGREED! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


279 posted on 07/11/2010 4:12:34 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

GREAT POINTS.

THX.


280 posted on 07/11/2010 4:13:34 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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