Posted on 06/25/2010 3:10:04 PM PDT by BereanBrain
You gotta read the article before you start arguing with me. P.S. it's NOT from a creationist site. It's from Science Daily.
(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...
Or don’t. I really don’t care.
That would be you misrepresenting the issue, Joe Science, but don't let reality intrude upon your fantasy. You're just trying to shift the discussion away from the fact that your 'ice dam' is imaginary.
"Go ahead, say it! Why all this posturing?"
No better arguments for your imaginary 'ice dam' than to accuse me of the thing you yourself do? I'm shocked, shocked Joe Science!
“Yeah, just volcanic dust. That 680 million cubic yards of dirt and mud just vaporized without a trace. And liquifaction and sedimentary layering only works in the laboratory. Heavier materials don’t ever sort in the wild. (sigh)”
—I’m pretty sure that was meant as sarcasm, but I have no idea why the sarcasm since no one ever claimed such silly things.
But anyway, the only layers I’m aware of that were created at Mt St Helens are ones such as these:
http://www.creationism.org/articles/nelson1.htm
Which, as I said (and contrary to the claims of the site) any first year geology student would easily discern were from a single eruption and created in a short period of time. They’re created by volcanic ash, and other examples of this were well known before Mt St Helens, such as Cathedral Rock in Oregon.
If you were referring to something different, I’d be glad to take a look.
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The Washington state scablands were also created in a short time at the end
of the last ice age when an enormous volume of water broke through an ice dam.
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In case you’ve not seen it...
PBS’s “NOVA” had a great episode on the creation of The Scablands.
It was very interesting (IIRC) how it was explained that supercooled
water, blasting through small cracks in an ice-dam can still create
enough friction/heat to cause the ice-dam to fail.
Also, the moment in which one academician realized he knew how the
scablands formed was great. Definitely a “eureka” moment.
Website for the episode:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/megaflood/scablands.html
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Canyon Carved in Just Three Days in Texas Flood: Insight Into Ancient
Flood Events on Earth and Mars
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Although a different sort of geological phenomenon, History Channel
had an episode on Niagara Falls (and the Great Lakes?).
It was noted that although the erosion that keeps moving Niagra Falls
“upstream” is relatively slow, there is one point at which the erosion will be
MUCH faster over a few miles (IIRC) due to the weakness of some underlying
stone formations.
(I’m not a geologist, nor do I play one on TV.)
I remember visiting there as a kid in the 60’s. They called one area the dry falls and the story presented was that there had been a water fall there with a volume greater than Niagara. So the idea that vast amounts of water had flowed through there is not a new one.
It is a great book...(Walt Brown’s book). I have bought and given away several of them and have used it while teaching. Strongly recommend reading it.
God Bless
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