Posted on 06/24/2010 8:48:39 PM PDT by franksolich
I am doing some family research, undertaken with some urgency, and am trying to find the church in which my parents were married.
According to the certificate of marriage issued by the church itself, it is "Church of Our Lady of the Scapular of Mt. Carmel, New York City."
I used google, and came up with a lot of information about scapulars and Mt. Carmel and religious orders, but haven't found specifically this church.
The "yellow pages" don't show anything, or if they do, I'm missing it.
Does anyone know if this particular church still exists?
Ping
Contact the Archdiocese of New York City in Manhattan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Our_Lady_of_the_Scapular_of_Mount_Carmel_(New_York_City)
Is that it?
Whoa.
That was quick.
I thank you.
Yes, that’s it, apparently.
The certificate of marriage didn’t have any street address, but given it’s unlikely there would have been more than one church in New York City with that name, this must be it.
Again, I thank you.
I am originally from New Jersey. Every July my Grandmother and our Church would make a pilgrimage to Our Lady of Mt.Carmel Church which I believe was in Brooklyn, NY. We are of Italian descent. Our Lady of Mt Carmel was very important to my Grandnother. I went with them when I was very young, and I remember going to Coney Island afterward. I’m pretty sure it is in Brooklyn, not NYC. Hope it helps.
From another site:
CHURCH OF OUR LADY of the SCAPULAR of MT. CARMEL, 339 East 28th Street, New York, NY 10016. (Carmelite Church, East 28th Street, New York, NY)
New Address: Parish of Our Lady of the Scapular and St. Stephen, 142 E. 29th St., New York, NY 10016
Gotta work on those Google skills :)
Oops.
Now it gets murkier.
The first one is listed as having been in Manhattan.
However, the parents lived in Brooklyn, and it perhaps makes sense they got married in Brooklyn.
So there was, or is, perhaps a second one in New York City?
Not to pick on you, but all I did was use google. I literally highlighted the name of the parish you were asking about, put it in google search and. . . voilà. . . there it was.
The internet is amazing!
Unfortunately, that's not what I got; as mentioned before, I googled, and got pages and pages and pages.....and pages.....of sites about scapulars, Mt. Carmel, and the Carmelite religious orders.
Excresence happens.
One time I wanted to find the distance between a certain address in Elgin, Illinois, and the (ancient) Illinois state penitentiary in Joliet.....and ended up reading (it was rather interesting anyway) about Scottish land laws of the 1600s.
I dunno if anybody else has noticed this, but searches on the internet can at times be very volatile. I find I get results other people don't, the problem being I oftentimes don't get specifically what I'm looking for.
But I thank you.
You might find it there too.
Here are lists of bishops, websites, etc.
Diocese of Albany
Most Reverend Howard J. Hubbard
Bishop of Albany
40 North Main Avenue
Albany, NY 12203
Eparchy of Our Lady of Nareg in New York for Armenian Catholics
Most Reverend Manuel Batakian
Eparch of Eparchy of Our Lady of Nareg in New York
167 North 6th Street
Brooklyn, NY 11211
Diocese of Brooklyn
Most Reverend Nicholas DiMarzio
Bishop of Brooklyn
310 Prospect Park West
Brooklyn, New York, 11215
Most Reverend Frank J. Caggiano
Auxiliary Bishop of Brooklyn
Most Reverend Ignatius A. Catanello
Auxiliary Bishop of Brooklyn
Most Reverend Octavio Cisneros
Holy Child Jesus
111-11 86th Avenue
Richmond Hill, NY 11418
Most Reverend Guy Sansaricq
Auxiliary Bishop of Brooklyn
Most Reverend Thomas V. Daily
Bishop Emeritus of Brooklyn
Most Reverend Joseph Sullivan
Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus of Brooklyn
Most Reverend Rene A. Valero
Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus of Brooklyn
Diocese of Buffalo
Most Reverend Edward U. Kmiec
Bishop of Buffalo
795 Main Street
Buffalo, NY 14203
Most Reverend Edward M. Grosz
Auxiliary Bishop of Buffalo
Most Reverend Bernard J. McLaughlin
Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus of Buffalo
Lithuanian Catholics outside Lithuania
Monsignor Edmundas Putrimas
Diocesan Administrator of Lithuanian Catholics outside Lithuania
64-14 Clinton Avenue
Maspeth NY 11378-2418
Most Reverend Paulius A. Baltakis, OFM
Bishop Emeritus of Lithuanian Catholics outside Lithuania
Archdiocese of New York
Most Reverend Timothy M. Dolan
Archbishop of New York
1011 First Avenue
New York, NY 10022
Most Reverend Josu Iriondo
Auxiliary Bishop of New York
Most Reverend Dominick J. Lagonegro
Auxiliary Bishop of New York
Most Reverend Dennis J. Sullivan
Auxiliary Bishop of New York
Most Reverend Gerald T. Walsh
Auxiliary Bishop of New York
His Eminence Edward Cardinal Egan
Archbishop Emeritus of New York
Most Reverend Patrick V. Ahern
Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus of New York
Most Reverend Robert A. Brucato
Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus of New York
Most Reverend James F. McCarthy
Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus of New York
Most Reverend William J. McCormack
Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus of New York
Most Reverend Anthony F. Mestice
Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus of New York
Most Reverend Patrick J. Sheridan
Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus of New York
Diocese of Ogdensburg
Reverend Terry R. LaValley
Bishop of Ogdensburg
P.O. Box 369
Ogdensburg, New York 13669
Diocese of Rochester
Most Reverend Matthew H. Clark
Bishop of Rochester
The Pastoral Center
1150 Buffalo Road
Rochester, NY 14624
Diocese of Rockville Centre
Most Reverend William F. Murphy
Bishop of Rockville Center
P.O. Box 9023
Rockville Centre, NY 11570
Most Reverend John C. Dunne, DD
Auxiliary Bishop of Rockville Centre
Most Reverend Peter A. Libasci
Auxiliary Bishop of Rockville Centre
Most Reverend Paul H. Walsh
Auxiliary Bishop of Rockville Center
Most Reverend James J. Daly
Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus of Rockville Centre
Most Reverend Emil A. Wcela, D.D.
Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus of Rockville Centre
Eparchy of St. Marion of Brooklyn for Maronites
Most Reverend Gregory J. Mansour
Bishop of Eparchy of St. Maron of Brooklyn for Maronites
109 Remsen Street
Brooklyn, NY 11201
Most Reverend Stephen Hector Doueihi
Bishop Emeritus of Eparchy of St. Marion of Brooklyn for Maronites
Most Reverend Francis M. Zayek
Eparch Emeritus of St. Marion of Brooklyn for Maronites
Diocese of Syracuse
Most Reverend Robert J. Cunningham
Bishop of Syracuse
P.O. Box 511
Syracuse, NY 13201-0511
Most Reverend James M. Moynihan
Bishop Emeritus of Syracuse
Most Reverend Thomas J. Costello
Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus of Syracuse
You may or may not know this, but if you do a search that includes a “+” in your search, then the search becomes more focused and you get a more targeted result. It can help with your next searches ;-)
Here’s an example for this one you were looking for: Church of Our Lady of the Scapular of Mt. Carmel+New York City -—See how the “+” sign is used? With this one the Wikipedia result comes up 1st. It helps many many times when searching. Good luck next time.
It could be your magnetic aura. You should apply for a research grant to study this phenomenon!
Parish of Our Lady of the Scapular
Fr. James McMahon, a New York priest, offered to endow for the Carmelites of Ireland a church and monastery in Manhattan’s upper west side (Seventy-seventh Street and Columbus Avenue). Fr. McMahon had been left a small legacy which he had increased to a substantial sum through financial activity, mainly in real estate foreclosures. Within a few weeks of their arrival, the Carmelites were able to secure a temporary site for services at Twenty-ninth Street and First Avenue. The first Masses were on Palm Sunday, April 14, 1889. Fr. Michael Daly the first pastor, held that post until 1894 when he resigned from the position and Fr. Edward Southwell was appointed pastor.
Archbishop Corrigan came to dedicate the church on December 22, 1889. In 1891, a hall was constructed, which was used for Sunday school, meetings, annual fairs, a gymnasium and later as a youth center.
In 1904 Father Southwell purchased land on Twenty-ninth Street for $45,000 just a few doors west of the priory for the site of the parish school. The cornerstone was blessed in November 1904 and the school was dedicated in September, 1905. Father Southwell returned to Ireland in 1906 and Fr. Louis McCabe succeeded him as pastor.
During the pastorate of Fr. Vincent Smyth, a priory was constructed in 1928 on Twenty-eighth Street adjoining the church.
The parish boundaries included Bellevue Hospital, the largest hospital in the city, where the Carmelites took over the duty of chaplains from the priests at St. Stephen’s Church. The Carmelites maintained their hospital apostolate at Bellevue for the next 118 years, winning widespread praise for their ministry to sick and indigent New Yorkers.
The pastorate of Fr. Sean Reid (1943 – 1964) was the longest in the history of the parish.
The church’s centennial was a year long celebration that began on April 1, 1989 with Mass at Our Lady of the Scapular.
John Cardinal O’Connor was the main concelebrant and homilist.
Between the opening Mass of the centennial and the closing Mass, the parish of Our Lady of the Scapular was joined to that of St. Stephen’s. The following priests have served as pastors of Our Lady of the Scapular Parish:
Rev. Michael Daly |
1889 – 1894 1894 – 1906 1906 – 1909 1909 – 1913 1916 – 1919 1919 – 1924 1924 – 1926 1926 – 1928 1928 – 1934 1934 – 1937 1937 – 1940 1940 – 1943 1943 – 1964 1964 – 1967 1967 – 1970 1970 – 1973 1973 – 1979 1979 – 1982 1982 – 1986 1986 – 1988 1988 – 1990 |
And thank you to Salvation for posting every archdiocese, diocese and eparchy in the State of New York!
Thank you!
You’re welcome. I can appreciate the frustration. Several years ago, I tried to track down my Baptismal certificate. No one could remember in which church I had been baptized. It took a while but I eventually located it :-).
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