I'll drink to that
Did Krapital Records make any audio recordings of these great Mormon moments? LOL!
1857 MOUNTAIN MEADOW MASSACRE
http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_mass.htm
Good grief! Have they tried Carlsberg? Nasty stuff.
I'll drink to that
translation: We will not tolerate gays, lesbians, feminists, or anyone with any brains or education in this Church!
WindySydney began as an online journal detailing my exit from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Since leaving the Mormon Church, I have come to the conclusion that religion does more harm than good. I have also become an atheist, looking for logic and reason instead of accepting things on faith.
I also blog about things going on in my life. I am learning photography, I have a severe addiction to diet coke, I am a proud vegetarian, and I have two of the cutest cats in the world. Life is officially an adventure without the magical fairy-tale ending. I plan on enjoying it.
-Andee
footnotes are a good thing where are they?
July 11, 1901 - First Presidency and apostles agree that Danish beer is not harmful or in violation of Word of Wisdom and release an official statement to the same affect.
You just can’t make this kind of stuff up...
Wait...
Well not all of it...
Finally, due to the importance given to the racial question by Nazis and the almost necessity of proving that one’s grandmother was not a Jewess
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What about the proof that the Savior is a Jew ???
A couple of notes on this one:
(a) It took the First Presidency a long, drawn-out 5 year "committee" focus to decide this one (5-year process);
(b) The oath included teaching it to your children and children's children. So let's say you were an influential 7 yr old hearing this from Ma & Pa in 1927. If you're alive today at age 90 or so, you have probably heard this oath and may have been told by your parents to keep it and pass it on to your children.
There's at least up to a dozen general authorities saying this same thing. (So Ballard was hardly unique on this one)
This one ranks with the Mormon church making Marriott CEO Bill Marriott part of its hierarchy...all as Marriott over 20 years ago began profiteering off of X-rated fair in its hotel rooms...thereby permanently changing, along with the video machine and then the Internet and now cell phones, the porn venues of porn theaters of the 70s & 80s. Bill Marriott...the porn industry's official paid lobbyist to the SLC Church hierarchy!
Ah, yes. With these three key history touchpoints of the Mormon church, we see the squelching, censoring spirit of Kirtland & spirit of Nauvoo at loose upon Mormonism generation after generation! But this list is missing anything prior to 1852! And this spirit, along with the false prophesy spirit, was especially loose upon the Mormons from January 1838 to January, 1839...and then again in June, 1844!
1838: Jan. 15: The church printing office in Kirtland is attached and sold at public auction to pay a debt to Grandison Newell. [Source: Saints Without Halos ] Jan. 16: The church printing office burns. Dissenters claim the church burned it rather than let anyone else have it. Members claim dissenter Lyman Sherman burned it to keep the church from getting it back. [Source: Saints Without Halos ]
My comment: The Mormon leaders did not want the "anti-Mormons" to have this printing press to produce anti-Mormon material. So, just like the Nauvoo Expositor issue to come 77 months later, the Mormons destroyed a printing press! According to this Utah Mormon journalist -- see Early Mormon Sherman died without ever knowing he was called to be an apostle :
Sherman was a close friend of Joseph Smith. He served as a president in the first Quorum of the Seventies from 1835 to 1837...Sherman also participated in secret anointings and ceremonies in the Kirtland Temple and according to reports, spoke in tongues. As the saints were being forced from Kirtland, opposition leaders sought to use a printing office to manufacture anti-LDS tracts. That printing office was destroyed by fire to prevent that, and historians believe it was the ever-faithful Sherman who set the blaze to thwart Smith’s enemies. Sherman then moved to Missouri and was on the Far West stake high council. Here’s where it gets interesting. While in Liberty Jail in January 1839, Smith, Sidney Rigdon and Hyrum Smith wrote to Brigham Young and Heber C. Kimball that Sherman should be made an apostle. However, unknown to Smith, Sherman’s health was ruined after the Kirtland strife and he was dying. Kimball and Young, for reasons still unclear, chose not to tell Sherman of his call to the apostleship. Perhaps Sherman was in a coma? In any event, this early church leader died in February 1839, in Far West, never knowing about his call.
How could Smith pinpoint Sherman as an "apostle" in January, 1839 not knowing Sherman would die before that could happen? What? Smith didn't have "divinity" involved in these so-called "divine" apostolic appointments? What's interesting is that made Smith "two-for-two" in such false prophecies within about a 10-month span:
April 17, 1838: Joseph prophesied -- -"Verily thus saith the Lord" (D&C 114:1) that David W. Patten would "perform a mission unto me ["me"=the Mormon god] next spring in company with others, even twelve including himself, to testify of my name and bear glad tidings unto all the world." (D&C 114:1)
Well, what happened. Was the Mormon "god" right? Did the Mormon "god" speak truly and directly through Joseph Smith? (Not on your life; and not on Patten's life!!!) David W. Patten died, and never made the mission in company with 11 others. Your Mormon god didn't know this in advance? Or your Mormon god didn't know that the "united order" established to care for the poor wouldn't be an "everlasting order," after all? (D&C 104:1)
Oct. 25, 1838: Battle of Crooked River, Missouri. David W. Patten was killed. What led up to his death?
Oct. 24, 1838: "Thomas B. Marsh, [LDS] President of the Quorum of the Twelve, having fled the violence in Daviess and Caldwell counties, testifies in Richmond, Ray county, that a company of Mormons under Apostle David Patten had burned Gallatin, that [LDS] Danites planned to burn Buncombe and perhaps Liberty and Richmond; that Joseph believes his prophecies are superior to the laws of the land, and so forth." [Source: Saints Without Halos ]
So, this Mormon "apostle" Patten led the charge and burned the community of Gallatin, MO! (Of course, you don't hear Mormons expound upon that when they mention either the Missouri Governor's order to exit Missouri (Oct. 27, 1838) or the Hawn's Mill battle (Oct. 30, 1838).
June 8, 1844: Joseph Smith, mayor of Nauvoo, orders his henchmen to destroy the Nauvoo Expositor because truth was like light to a vampire for Smith! And so, almost 166 years to this day, Smith sets in motion the series of events that would lead to his gun-battle death.
I testify with a burning in my soul that Joseph Smith was a multiple false "prophet." And should be repudiated by all who cling to the name of Jesus Christ!
Wow, this is a keeper list.
This guy became the 2nd Prez of BYU Academy because the first wandered off on a "Neverland" trek in South America to find the always-elusive "Zarahemla" in 1900.
Such wasted lives.
At age 33, Brimhall stuck his 29 yo wife, who had 7 children in 8 years, in an insane asylum after she couldn't get over her last child dying the previous year.
Brimhall then promptly turned over the other 6 children, aged 3-10, to their grandparents as he immediately (same year, 1885) decided to marry another woman -- a 20 yr old -- and start over anew with a new family...8 more kids.
The Lds church rewarded this "families are forever" focus of his by making him a "patriarch" two years later and by giving him the BYU presidency 19 years later.
He shot himself with a hunting rifle at age 80...allegedly because of severe chest and abdominal pain.
Source: http://www.byhigh.org/History/Brimhall/GeorgeH.html
Before this turns into another marathon exposing LDS falsehoods, you could look thru a last one: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2495971/posts?q=1&;page=1
Sep 1,1870 - Salt Lake City's 9th Ward reports that only thirty one of its 181 families attends Sunday Services regularly and 50% of families are perfectly indifferent.
George W. Givens was a Mormon in good standing (deceased). In his book, 500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History, he wrote about how attendance was still quite low in early 1900s:
When we look at Church activity percentages at the beginning of the twentieth century, we are not very impressed. No more than 5% of the wards held priesthood meetings and five years later sacrament attendance averaged little more than 14%. (p. 217; Bonneville Books, 2004)
So the quote covers early 1900s Mormonism...
...and Delacoert's original post highlights 1870 Mormonism
...What was going on statistically in 1850s Mormonism?
Givens, p. 113: As the 1850s ended, so did the greatest era of excommunications--especially in the British Isles. Excommunications were due primarily to alcoholism, sexual misconduct, non-attendance at meetings, and just plain insistence by the leaders on genuine conversion. The European Mission records (primarily British) for the five years from 1850 to 1854 inclusive show 15,197 excommunications. Records from Scotland for the entire decade indicate 3,477 baptisms but 2,269 excommunications. The excommunication rate of new converts for that decade was 65%.
I'm sure the rate of abandonment of new converts remains high. Why? Because new converts eventually find out what the Church really teaches that's kept hidden & tucked away.
50 years...that would make it 1891 (beginning of the end of polygamy) --> 1941.
But wait. To cite Mormon author George Givens again, in his book, 500 MORE Little Known Facts in Mormon History, Givens says the prostitutes were active in 1885 Utah:
Tables were briefly turned on the persecutors who were hounding the Saints in Utah in 1885. The Chief of Detectives in Salt Lake City, a Mormon named Brigham Y. Hampton, with the cooperation of the Madame of a bordello on West Temple Street, had his police bore holes in a number of rooms. These enabled the Mormon police to gather evidence on more than 100 federal appointees, including judges, prosecuting attorneys, and marshals as well as members of the gentile ring who had been so zealous in their prosecution of the Saints for 'sexual irregularities.' The resulting arrests were a bombshell among the gentiles as Hampton started preparing indictments. Many gentile leaders even went into hiding as they had forced so many Saints to do. Unfortunately, Federal Judge Zane quashed the indictments and Hampton himself was arrested for 'conspiracy' and sentenced to a year in prison. (p. 177)
So, on the one hand you had some of the Gentile law enforcement folks getting their "just desserts" of being arrested for sex-based crimes...
...and on the other hand, you had the SLC Chief of Detectives and arrested -- as he and the SLC police squad was in cahoots with the Temple Street prostitution industry!
Why would such a strictly controlled Mormon town have prostitutes on West Temple Street of all places less than 40 years after the Mormons set up camp there?
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And as a related note on Prostitution as it tied into the Monogamy vs. Polygamy "argument" of the 19th century:
Some folks contend that polygamy had "nothing to do with sexual debauchery" -- yet why did Benjamin F. Johnson recall that Joseph Smith taught him that plural marriage was the only means by which prostitution could be eliminated. (Hardy, A Solemn Covenant, p. 16)
From a Joseph Smith policy perspective--Johnson's remembrance shows that a true purpose of plurality (not the only one) was in effect to have an "in-house" prostitute. How base is that for 19th LDS to have embraced that vantage point? Hardy cited other LDS who thought that mass polygamy would "eliminate sexual wickedness" and LDS general authority/legislator, William Gibson, who after-the-fact claimed to have voted against the Manifesto, called it "the best antidote to sexual sin." (A Solemn Covenant, p. 145, citing William Gibson, who was quoted in "Polygamous Issues," DN, March 28, 1896.)
"The need for prostitution...was seized on by Mormons as evidence that monogamy was manifestly an incorrect system of marriage...From the 1850s until the end of the century, Mormon writers and speakers struck at what they considered their detractors' hypocrisy for criticizing Mormon marriage when, as the First Presidency affirmed in 1886, adultery and prostitution were the consequences of the monogamic arrangement.... (A Solemn Covenant, p. 89, citing "An Epistle of the First Presidency..." March 1886, Messages 3:68...Hardy cites in the same footnote about 8 other sources from Heber C. Kimball to Brigham Young to John Taylor to George Q. Cannon to apostle Erasmus Snow).
So there ya go! The embracing of polygamy naturally led to an elitist position where polygamists looked down upon, frowned upon, and even openly dismissed or criticized "monogamy!" When you have an LDS "prophet" in 1886 claiming that adultery and prostitution were the consequences of monogamy, that's a major, major problem!!! Hardy devotes a full chapter to how LDS regarded it as sexually superior--not for erotic or "orgy" reasons--but for what they regarded was the "opposite"--associating prostitution and the resulting ill-health with monogamy, etc.