Jesus Christ was baptized and “sealed” to Mary Magdelene (Mormon - Open)

Further Light And Knowledge ^ | June 1, 2010 | Helen Radkey

[reaganaut]

Jesus of Nazareth, also known as Jesus Christ, or simply Jesus, is the central figure of Christianity. The life and sermons of Jesus form the basis of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ is recognized by believing Christians as God incarnate, the Son of God who was raised from the dead—the Redeemer of mankind—the most important figure in history.

According to Mormon doctrine, Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. However, it seems that even the perceived Savior of the world is not exempt from LDS temple rituals. Proxy rites for Jesus Christ were performed in the Salt Lake (LDS) Temple in Utah, in April 2010. The Salt Lake Temple, located on Temple Square in the heart of Mormon-dominated Salt Lake City, was dedicated on April 6, 1893—three years before Utah became a state in 1896—and is one of the oldest of the 132 currently operating temples that are owned and maintained by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS.)

New FamilySearch is the online genealogy database of the LDS Church that contains updated details of LDS temple ordinances that have been done for dead people. There are multiple listings for Jesus Christ in New FamilySearch—under different versions of his identity—which have been submitted by individual Mormons. It is not known how many times Jesus has been subjected to LDS rites because all New FamilySearch records for him—including combined records—show LDS ordinance details as “Not Available.”

On May 27, 2010, there were two similar records for Jesus in New FamilySearch which had been submitted by the same person. One listing was titled “Jesus Christian,” and showed “Jesus Christian” was born “before 1500 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1550 Jerusalem, Israel.” LDS ordinances were tagged as “Not available” on this record. The other entry was for “Jesus Cristian,” who was born “before 1502 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1539 Jerusalem, Israel.” The entry for “Jesus Cristian” gave a description of LDS ordinances, along with the name of a spouse—“Maria Magdelena.”

“Jesus Cristian” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” “Jesus Cristian” was also subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and a marriage “sealing” to “spouse” “Maria Magdelena” on April 9, 2010—all rites occurred in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”

It appears the submissions for “Jesus Christian,” and “Jesus Cristian” were attempts to manipulate the identity of Jesus Christ through the LDS temple system. The misspelled “Cristian,” instead of “Christian,” could have been a typo, or a deliberate error. It may have been intentionally entered as “Cristian” to get around a computer program that automatically blocks submissions that contain the names “Jesus Christ.” That would explain why the entry for “Jesus Christian” shows LDS ordinances as “Not available.”

While both New FamilySearch records in question lack complete birth and death data, and give imprecise “before” years of these events—the first name “Jesus” combined with the surnames “Christian” and “Cristian” (both spins on the name of “Christ”) are signs that “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” are pseudonyms for Jesus Christ.

Other indicators on the New FamilySearch records that point to Jesus Christ are the birth place, “Bethlehem,” and the death location, “Jerusalem.” (Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem and died outside the walls of old Jerusalem.) Another clue to the identity of “Jesus Cristian” is the name of his “spouse”—“Maria Magdelena,” a misspelled variant of Mary Magdalene. “Maria Magdelena” is not listed on the “Jesus Christian” record.

Because “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” have similar names and identical birth and death locations—“Bethlehem” and “Jerusalem,” they are probably the same person. Their birth and death years are similar, but not the same. The estimated dates listed for these events look like they have been fabricated. According to their New FamilySearch records, “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” were born and died in the 16th century. “Jesus Christian” lived roughly 50 years, while “Jesus Cristian” died in his thirties.

On May 27, 2010, “Maria Magdelena” was listed in New FamilySearch with her birth date as “1504 Israel,” and death date as “before 1540 Israel.” Both years are likely inventions. Along with “spouse” “Jesus Cristian,” “Maria Magdelena” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” She was subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and the marriage “sealing” to “Jesus Cristian” on April 9, 2010—all rites were done in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”

Mary Magdalene is described in the New Testament as a faithful follower of Jesus. Because the concept of marriage is strongly emphasized in LDS teachings, the notion that a spousal relationship existed between Jesus and Mary Magdalene is common among Mormons—although that belief is not formal LDS doctrine. There is no reliable historical evidence to indicate that Jesus was married—to Mary Magdalene, or anyone else.

LDS Church officials have publicly stated that the New FamilySearch program is a technological deterrent to improper submissions. Yet—under their very noses—on Temple Square in Salt Lake City, Jesus Christ—under a false name—two millennia after his birth, was offered Mormon salvation and an erroneous eternal marriage sealing.

Sometime late in the day on May 27, 2010, the individual entries for “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” were scrubbed from New FamilySearch—concealing the evidence that LDS rites had recently been performed for these two names in the Salt Lake Temple. The sudden disappearance of these records is a strong indication that “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” represent Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene.

© Copyright 2010, Helen Radkey—Permission is granted to reproduce, provided content is not changed and this copyright notice is included.

[reaganaut]

Elsie, you finally know who you are...

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Better yet, resty, we know WHOSE we are. We are Christ’s. Bought and paid for in our entirely with His precious blood shed on the Cross.

And we pray that someday you will know the same thing.

[reaganaut]

correction entirely = entirety.

[mrreaganaut]

The beliefs of the antis can be ridiculed and attacked, as easily as anyone else’s ... Basically, the Mormons, conservative Catholics, and the groups here who constantly attack both, agree on some fundamental principles.

These are two interesting statements, LL. First you seek the 'everybody does it' defense, attempting to portray a moral equivalency between "antis" and Mormons. Then, you seek to portray a Mormon/Catholic alliance based on the principle that 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend.'

As to the first assertion: Is that the best you can do? Other peoples' beliefs are just as ridiculous? How can you expect to persuade anyone when you not only irritate them by denigrating their beliefs, but then admit that your own ideas are too silly to be believed? Are you really trying to embarrass yourself?

As to the second assertion: Are you trying to say that Catholics should band together with the 'Morg' against the "antis," or that Catholics, Mormons, AND "antis" should band together for conservatism? Which is it: 'can't we all just get along,' or 'help save us from those evil Protestants?'

Further, by "antis" you falsely imply that all anti-Mormonism posters are also anti-Catholic; there are many posters who are not anti-Catholic, but nonetheless find Mormonism ridiculous. Romney's quotation of JFK's famous speech where he reassured the public that a Catholic could be trusted to be president has fooled some Catholics into believing in your union of "antis" (K-Lo of NRO being one), but Romney's antics persuade few FReepers.

Part of conservatism is recognizing that there are more important things than politics; this is the reason that there are more boards on FR than just ones on breaking news and politics. The point of a religion board is to discuss religion, not to "put aside doctrinal disputes" for the sake of a united political front.

[restornu]

You enjoy the New age lady your new best credible friend!

[restornu]

I follow every time you go off on your own tangent

[reaganaut]

LOL.. That is cute. Just because I don’t agree with her beliefs, doesn’t make her not credible.

That is one of the first things you learn in Historiography.

[HushTX]

While the "Gay issue," amidst other concerns, certainly raised hackles, it was not a deciding factor.

This was:

In an Oct 18, 2006 radio interview Bishop Jefferts Schori stated, “Christians understand that Jesus is the route to God. That is not to say that Muslims, or Sikhs, or Jains, come to God in a radically different way. They come to God through human experience – through human experience of the divine.”

“We who practice the Christian tradition understand him as our vehicle to the divine,” the presiding bishop told Time magazine in its July 10, 2006 issue. “But for us to assume that God could not act in other ways is, I think, to put God in an awfully small box.”


and this

Is belief in Jesus the only way to get to heaven?

We who practice the Christian tradition understand him as our vehicle to the divine. But for us to assume that God could not act in other ways is, I think, to put God in an awfully small box. Really, there is so much more. But those two samples give you an idea of the sea that has flooded the rift between the Anglican Communion and the exciting new doctrine of relative salvation that Schori has made the cornerstone of her new church.

[reaganaut]

Hey, you were the one that started that ‘tangent’ when you made THIS statement at #231:

“If such a thing [as the ordinances described] did ocurred it would have been done during the time Jesus lived on earth they did have temples in those days.”

now, why are you obfuscating rather than answering a simple question?

[reaganaut]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2526324/posts?page=294#294

ping to 294 & 295.

[mrreaganaut]

Oh, oops, sorry CC, I see that now...

and sorry for mistakenly calling you Colo...

[svcw]

Answer the question.........really R that is just so funny. lds can’t even stay on topic.

[Colofornian]

As to the first assertion: Is that the best you can do? ...How can you expect to persuade anyone when you not only irritate them by denigrating their beliefs...?

Good Q, Mr. Reaganaut. (And, BTW, this denigration is done directly and personally by you, LL -- on FREEPER threads...
...as well as indirectly and by delegating of your "sustaining power" and by derivation of your offering plate dollars...)
...the latter is carried out by whatever of your funds has been used by Lds, Inc. to go into its translation & curricula & e-funds & mags, etc. to slander & denigrate the entire Christian worldwide church.

...you seek to portray a Mormon/Catholic alliance based on the principle that 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend.'...Are you trying to say that Catholics should band together with the 'Morg' against the "antis," or that Catholics, Mormons, AND "antis" should band together for conservatism? Which is it: 'can't we all just get along,' or 'help save us from those evil Protestants?'

Typical Mormon "apology" of trying to have it both ways. They play "pinball" off of people. They won't get on an Lds apostle's case for calling the Catholic church "the whore of Babylon" (Bruce R. McConkie)...behind their backs they'll reference Catholics as "apostates" with 100% creedal abominations...but then they'll try to cozy up to perceived RC allies on these threads.

Such is the spiritual chameleon.

[Tennessee Nana]

160 miles to Nashville: Me driving, them sleeping

Breakfast: McDonalds...is there anywhere else for 6, 7 yos ???

Just after 9AM (CST) till about 1PM: Nashville Zoo...Where are the signs ???

They were fast asleep before we left the parking lot...

1.30 PM till 2.30 ish: The Spagetti Factory...in the Tram..They ate almost everything..

2.45 PM (CST) to the house 6:30 (EST): Me driving them sleeping...

THey were so awake and attentive when they werent in the car asleep and good to almost perfect, that they said they had a great day...

I oughta write a book...

LOL

[svcw]

Sounds fun. In a few days I get to look after my three grandchild for two weeks. (all by myself) Pray for me. ,-)

[Tennessee Nana]

Must be Adam Smith and Eve Jones both born Eden, Tennessee
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No according to Joey Smith that was Eden, Missouri...

[reaganaut]

A girl can dream...

Singing: someday my ans’r will come...

[reaganaut]

Sounds fun. But only 4 hours at the zoo? Can’t see much, can you?

BTW, how did the zoo do in the flooding?

[trisham]

Stop posting to me.

[svcw]

Stop responding.

[Elsie]

2. They will become gods.

Genesis 3:1, 4-5

 

1.  Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, `You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?" 

2...

3...

4.  "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman.
5.  "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

 

 

His tactics haven't changed a bit!