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Mystery of the Trinity
http://www.crossroadsinitiative.com/library_article/937/Mystery_of_the_Trinity.html ^ | June 11, 2006 | by: Dr. Marcellino D'Ambrosio

Posted on 05/30/2010 2:09:35 PM PDT by Salvation

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The real test of understanding one God in three distinct Persons is, if you THINK you've got it...you don't.

3 forms of water don't work...3 leaves of a clover don't either...3 parts of an apple...all of these are simplifications which try to make esentially rational, or capturable...by our finite brains, that which, or rather He whom, is infinite and un-capturable.

Some charge that we call this doctrine a mystery because we want to cover up how illogical and preposterous it is. No, it is a mystery because it exceeds our powers of imagination and comprehension. But shouldn’t we expect the inner nature of God to be greater than our finite minds? Any reality that our minds can master is by definition inferior to our minds. The Supreme Being by definition has to be greater than our minds.

The glory of it all, is that this incomprehensible God chooses to know us, and to allow Himself to be known...(as much as we know) and to draw us up, in way, into the loving union He has had for eternity with Himself--in 3 Persons.

Praise to be our Lord & Master, Mediator & Friend, Jesus Christ, to Him be glory and honor, with the Father and the Holy Spirit, forever and ever!!!

21 posted on 05/30/2010 9:22:22 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: Salvation

One God, One Example, One Delivery.


22 posted on 05/30/2010 9:25:45 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: AnalogReigns
Christians have ALWAYS worshiped Jesus as God

That statement is so wrong that, depending on your motives, becomes a lie.

There have been controversies about this since Christ's death. John's epistles testify to that.

23 posted on 05/31/2010 7:32:59 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye
There have always been as many controversies about Jesus' divinity, as there have been unbelievers in Him. The definition of a "Christian" however are those who call Him Lord and God.

The statement stands: CHRISTIANS HAVE ALWAYS WORSHIPED JESUS AS GOD!

A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."

Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!" (John 20:26-28)

Ar·i·an·ism: n.
The doctrines of Arius, denying that Jesus was of the same substance as God and holding instead that he was only the highest of created beings, viewed as heretical by Christian churches.

24 posted on 05/31/2010 9:16:06 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

E.W. Bullinger, trinitarian, demonstrates the John 20 that you cited is really a figure of speech called hendiadys, two words to mean one things.

Thomas was around when God Almighty spoke to Jesus’s followers and identified Jesus as His Son.

Trinitarianism- A form of multi-diety idolatry that is related to Old Testament baal worship. It is the worship of a false doctrine requiring claims of mysticism and the insane belief that one is really three, that God died and sits on his own right hand. It requires one to adhere to an amazingly inconsistent model that shifts with every challenge and cannot meet simply scriptural scrutiny. It also requires its adherents to answer questions with a question and fail to ever give an explanation of trinitarian inconsistencies.


25 posted on 05/31/2010 4:29:06 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Look buddy, the doctrine of God as holy trinity is as old as the New Testament—where God as Father, God as Son and God as the Holy Spirit is taught throughout.

The earliest summaries of biblical doctrine, including the Apostles Creed and the Nicene Creed clearly teach it.

EVERY Christian denomination, including, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Coptic, Lutheran, Anglican, Reformed, Presbyterian, Baptist (all kinds), Mennonite, Methodist, Moravian, Bible, Congregationalist, Assembly of God, Evangelical Free, independent Evangelical, etc. etc., regards God as one in substance, three in persons, as an essential to their beliefs. These groups would constitute well over 99% of those who call themselves “Christian” in the world today, and in history.

You want to deny God’s nature...OK, it’s a free country. Please don’t label yourself as a Christian though, as well over 99% of us find that totally dishonest.

A bit like calling yourself a “conservative” and supporting Obama.


26 posted on 05/31/2010 5:53:51 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (JESUS IS LORD!!!)
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To: AnalogReigns

Romans 10:9,10 is the standard for salvation.

Judging my standing with God is a sin.

Go repent. You have a lot of it to do.


27 posted on 05/31/2010 7:30:40 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye; NorthStarStateConservative
Steam is not water and water is not ice and ice is not steam.

Um, boy are you wrong. Steam is water, as is liquid water is water, and ice is water.

Fail.....

Try again.....

28 posted on 06/02/2010 11:24:51 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Eagle Eye
God is not Jesus, Jesus is not holy spirit, and Jesus is not God.

"Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say to you, before Abraham was made, I am." -John 8:58

29 posted on 06/02/2010 11:30:48 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480; Eagle Eye
God is not Jesus, Jesus is not holy spirit, and Jesus is not God

More accurately: The Father is not Jesus; Jesus is not the Holy Spirit; the Holy Spirit is not the Father; all three are God.
30 posted on 06/02/2010 11:36:54 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan; Eagle Eye

Well, in EE’s case, he also denies the divinity of Jesus and the truth of the Holy Trinity.


31 posted on 06/02/2010 11:38:22 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Salvation

The triple point of water


32 posted on 06/02/2010 12:18:00 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Christian Conservative Black Man!)
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To: aruanan

So God is three?

Or three are God?


33 posted on 06/02/2010 12:30:42 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye

One divine essence, one Godhead, three persons in it.


34 posted on 06/02/2010 12:36:35 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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Based on what you posted you are saying that the Bible lies when is says that no man has seen God at any time.

If Jesus is God then no one saw him as God is invisible.

Please be so kind at to tell me which part of the Bible is wrong or a lie, ok?


35 posted on 06/02/2010 12:36:50 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Pyro7480

Three in one?


36 posted on 06/02/2010 12:37:20 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye

You’re forgetting that with God, all things are possible.


37 posted on 06/02/2010 12:40:53 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480
Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [is] one LORD:

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Gal 3:20 Now a mediator is not [a mediator] of one, but God is one.

You say God is three in one; the Bible says CLEARLY and REPEATEDLY that God is one. Bolding is mine, not King James.

So tell me which parts of the Bible are wrong. The parts that say that there is one God or the parts that say that God is one? Or both?

I happen to believe that there is one God and God is one. And that there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Got a problem with that?

38 posted on 06/02/2010 12:43:05 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Meaning one Godhead. You have also failed to address my Scripture I quoted from earlier.


39 posted on 06/02/2010 12:45:16 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480
You’re forgetting that with God, all things are possible.

That is unscriptural and a lie!

God cannot be tempted with evil. Period. God cannot sin. It is impossible.

Some would say that God cannot violate freedom of will but I couldn't prove that from the Bible even though I personally believe it.

But wait...Jesus was tempted in all ways like we are!

So let's see, God cannot be tempted with evil yet Jesus was....sounds like God is not Jesus and Jesus is not God.

You’re forgetting that with God, all things are possible.

What a bunch of horse crap and chicken stuff cop out.

40 posted on 06/02/2010 12:47:08 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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