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To: AnalogReigns

E.W. Bullinger, trinitarian, demonstrates the John 20 that you cited is really a figure of speech called hendiadys, two words to mean one things.

Thomas was around when God Almighty spoke to Jesus’s followers and identified Jesus as His Son.

Trinitarianism- A form of multi-diety idolatry that is related to Old Testament baal worship. It is the worship of a false doctrine requiring claims of mysticism and the insane belief that one is really three, that God died and sits on his own right hand. It requires one to adhere to an amazingly inconsistent model that shifts with every challenge and cannot meet simply scriptural scrutiny. It also requires its adherents to answer questions with a question and fail to ever give an explanation of trinitarian inconsistencies.


25 posted on 05/31/2010 4:29:06 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Look buddy, the doctrine of God as holy trinity is as old as the New Testament—where God as Father, God as Son and God as the Holy Spirit is taught throughout.

The earliest summaries of biblical doctrine, including the Apostles Creed and the Nicene Creed clearly teach it.

EVERY Christian denomination, including, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Coptic, Lutheran, Anglican, Reformed, Presbyterian, Baptist (all kinds), Mennonite, Methodist, Moravian, Bible, Congregationalist, Assembly of God, Evangelical Free, independent Evangelical, etc. etc., regards God as one in substance, three in persons, as an essential to their beliefs. These groups would constitute well over 99% of those who call themselves “Christian” in the world today, and in history.

You want to deny God’s nature...OK, it’s a free country. Please don’t label yourself as a Christian though, as well over 99% of us find that totally dishonest.

A bit like calling yourself a “conservative” and supporting Obama.


26 posted on 05/31/2010 5:53:51 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (JESUS IS LORD!!!)
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To: Eagle Eye
"Trinitarianism- ...a false doctrine requiring claims of mysticism and the insane belief that one is really three, that God died and sits on his own right hand. It requires one to adhere to an amazingly inconsistent model that shifts with every challenge and cannot meet simply scriptural scrutiny.

Nonsense.

The trinity is a simple concept. The claim is that there are 3 persons in one. A person, or the person is the individual sentient, rational being that is machinery independent. The machinery is the brain and body which serve to provide for the functions of sentience, rationality and interactions with the physical world.

The essence of the person is contained in the spirit, which is a non-physical instance of the person. In order for there to be an actual physical instance of the person, there must be some machinery that provides for the functions of spirit. That machinery is the body. In order for that spirit to have a real instance of person in more than one world, 2 in this case, there must be 2 bodies.

Trinity: The essence of person, the sentient rational being and the 2 real instances of that person in the 2 worlds provided for by the physical machinery of body.

Trinity is required for logical consisteny with the claims contained in the Bible and is consistent with the statement in Gen 1:26, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness..."

"that God died and sits on his own right hand. "

Who can be God's right hand man, other than God Himself?

54 posted on 06/04/2010 3:07:38 PM PDT by spunkets
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