Posted on 04/28/2010 4:56:07 AM PDT by urroner
A group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical explorers say wooden remains they have discovered on Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey are the remains of Noah's Ark.
The group claims that carbon dating proves the relics are 4,800 years old, meaning they date to around the same time the ark was said to be afloat. Mt. Ararat has long been suspected as the final resting place of the craft by evangelicals and literalists hoping to validate biblical stories.
Yeung Wing-Cheung, from the Noah's Ark Ministries International research team that made the discovery, said: "It's not 100 percent that it is Noah's Ark, but we think it is 99.9 percent that this is it."
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KJV of the bible.....why don’t you read the rest of it and find out what your protestant brethren didn’t want you to know......for 1,500 years it worked fine
For example, Isaiah is full of word play that is easily seen by those who can read ancient Hebrew, but those of us who don’t speak it miss it completely and the true sense of the scripture slides right past us and we are totally unaware of it. It’s not our fault, but we still miss the true meaning of those scriptures. But it’s not that we not only miss the true meanings of the words, we take those words and try to understand what they mean by means of words and a culture that are completely foreign to the original language and the original culture.
I just stated to the unbeliever of the ark story that if God said Noah built an ark, then Noah built an ark.
What some body else believes is their business.
Totally agree....I can understand the emotions of biblical tales, but I can better understand basic reality.
“Why is it that when science agrees with the Christians who take a dim view of science, those same Christians are more than happy to use it to prove their POV, yet, when science challenges those Christians’ POV, science is now a tool of Satan, seeking to thwart the work of God?”
Why is it that people so often try to pit science against Christianity? Many of those scientists ARE CHRISTIANS and what they observe confirms their Biblical beliefs.
I wish this was it, but will need a lot more proof.
Why don,t you just tell me the big secret that you have of the K.J V. of the Bible and I will look at it and see if you are right or not?
there is no secrets the KJV....it is whAT THEY ELIMINATED THAT IS THE SECRET.....CHECK WITH YOUR (sorry I hit the caps key) Minister ......you wiull find that for 1,500 years the bible taught what was right.....in the 1500’s the protestants decided to change the bible......what’s with that???????
Noah’s Ark PaleoBabble Update
http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/
I was the archaeologist with the Chinese expedition in the summer of 2008 and was given photos of what they now are reporting to be the inside of the Ark. I and my partners invested $100,000 in this expedition (described below) which they have retained, despite their promise and our requests to return it, since it was not used for the expedition. The information given below is my opinion based on what I have seen and heard (from others who claim to have been eyewitnesses or know the exact details).
To make a long story short: this is all reported to be a fake. The photos were reputed to have been taken off site near the Black Sea, but the film footage the Chinese now have was shot on location on Mt. Ararat. In the late summer of 2008 ten Kurdish workers hired by Parasut, the guide used by the Chinese, are said to have planted large wood beams taken from an old structure in the Black Sea area (where the photos were originally taken) at the Mt. Ararat site. In the winter of 2008 a Chinese climber taken by Parasut’s men to the site saw the wood, but couldn’t get inside because of the severe weather conditions. During the summer of 2009 more wood was planted inside a cave at the site. The Chinese team went in the late summer of 2009 (I was there at the time and knew about the hoax) and was shown the cave with the wood and made their film. As I said, I have the photos of the inside of the so-called Ark (that show cobwebs in the corners of rafters – something just not possible in these conditions) and our Kurdish partner in Dogubabyazit (the village at the foot of Mt. Ararat) has all of the facts about the location, the men who planted the wood, and even the truck that transported it
there is no secrets the KJV....it is whAT THEY ELIMINATED THAT IS THE SECRET.....CHECK WITH YOUR (sorry I hit the caps key) Minister ......you wiull find that for 1,500 years the bible taught what was right.....in the 1500’s the protestants decided to change the bible......what’s with that???????
A small percentage of the people knew what the scriptures said
but they did not want the people to know what they said because they wanted to keep the people in the dark and keep the rule over them, no different from the priests and their underlings that killed the son of God.
Some of the people you refer to as protestants were actually members of the Church of Rome, and they knew what the scriptures said, and knew that the church was hiding any thing that might take some of their power away.
John 8; 32
And you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.
During the time of the power of the Roman Church the people was not even free to read the scriptures for them selves.
The difference between the K.J.V and some of the other popular versions are that the other ones are translated by religious organizations who translate to fit their own agenda, the K.J.V. was not.
Sorry, but i think its the other way around, i believe the roman church kept the scriptures a secret from the majority of the people and every thing was just hear say.
in the 1500 years before the invention of the printiung press, bibles were hand written by Catholic monks and therefore very expensive. The church was not keeping bibles from anyone. First of all, very few people could read and if they could, they could only read their language. The Catholics did not interpret the bible to suit their needs, they wrote it and it was in the 1500’s that the protestant revolters decided to eliminate entire books which had been there from the beginning.
I found out my sister knows one of the scientist who discovered the structure, and that the structure being shown has been found some time ago, but it’s just now hitting the news. She also said the what is being shown in the media is just part of what they found, and that the ship is in two seperate sections as if broken in half.
My sister rights:
“This has been discovered before by my friend Dr. Ron Charles. You are seeing just a portion of it in the media. I have heard the personal stories on the discovery directly from him. Very interesting. The discovery was done by Dr. Ron Charles and his exuviating crew. I have a lot of info that I can get. He will be here in June for a few days you are welcome to come and talk with him. He will be at our church he is personal friends with my pastor, I have also had him overnight with his wife here. I have a great book from Dr Ron Charles you should read of all the discoveries he has made.
I have his wife on face book but he has to play it low key because of other things he is involved that is dangerous to be public knowledge.”
Sorry, but i think its the other way around, i believe the roman church kept the scriptures a secret from the majority of the people and every thing was just hear say.
in the 1500 years before the invention of the printiung press, bibles were hand written by Catholic monks and therefore very expensive. The church was not keeping bibles from anyone. First of all, very few people could read and if they could, they could only read their language. The Catholics did not interpret the bible to suit their needs, they wrote it and it was in the 1500’s that the protestant revolters decided to eliminate entire books which had been there from the beginning.
Read Cor 11 and compare verse,s 4,5,6,7 of the K.J.V to any of the new versions and then read the summation in verses 13, 14, and 15.
any one can see that the K.J.V is the only one that does not contradict itself.
Read Cor 11 and compare verse,s 4,5,6,7 of the K.J.V to any of the new versions and then read the summation in verses 13, 14, and 15.
any one can see that the K.J.V is the only one that does not contradict itself
you can’t do that.....you print a version of the bible one thousand five hundred years from the original and expect the original version to comply with your new interpretation.....how does that work?????if the KJV does not agree in every way with the original bible, then the KJV is WRONG....why did the protestants, in the 1500’s decide to remove books from the bible and change various passages in it????..why did Martin Luther et al decide that they could write a better version of the bible than could those who lived it.....amazing.....by the way, because he drew millions of people from the true church, Luther is responsible for the loss of more souls than anyone else in history..IMHO
you can’t do that.....you print a version of the bible one thousand five hundred years from the original and expect the original version to comply with your new interpretation.....how does that work?????if the KJV does not agree in every way with the original bible, then the KJV is WRONG....why did the protestants, in the 1500’s decide to remove books from the bible and change various passages in it????..why did Martin Luther et al decide that they could write a better version of the bible than could those who lived it.....amazing.....by the way, because he drew millions of people from the true church, Luther is responsible for the loss of more souls than anyone else in history..IMHO
4 For any man to pray or to prophesy with his head covered shows disrespect for his head.
5 And for a woman to pray or prophesy with her head uncovered shows disrespect for her head; it is exactly the same as if she had her hair shaved off.
6 Indeed, if a woman does go without a veil, she should have her hair cut off too; but if it is a shameful thing for a woman to have her hair cut off or shaved off, then she should wear a veil.
7 But for a man it is not right to have his head covered, since he is the image of God and reflects God’s glory; but woman is the reflection of man’s glory.
8 For man did not come from woman; no, woman came from man;
9 nor was man created for the sake of woman, but woman for the sake of man:
10 and this is why it is right for a woman to wear on her head a sign of the authority over her, because of the angels.
11 However, in the Lord, though woman is nothing without man, man is nothing without woman;
12 and though woman came from man, so does every man come from a woman, and everything comes from God.
13 Decide for yourselves: does it seem fitting that a woman should pray to God without a veil?
14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him,
15 but when a woman has long hair, it is her glory? After all, her hair was given to her to be a covering.
Can,t you see a womans hair is her covering, she does not need a veil unless she has cut her hair off like a man, or shaved it. it is not talking about veils and hats and things, it is talking about hair
If she has cut her hair off then she just as well go ahead and shave it for it is the same as if she had shaved it and then put a sack over her head to hide her shame.
read the king James bible and it will explain it very good in plain common sense.
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