Posted on 04/06/2010 7:41:39 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz
President Obama bared his soul before a cross section of Christian leaders at a White House Easter breakfast on Tuesday (April 6), where he spoke publicly of his faith in redemption through Jesus in his most personal terms since becoming president.
"We are awed by the grace he showed even to those who would have killed him," Obama said, pausing occasionally to glance at written notes. "We are thankful for the sacrifice he gave for the sins of humanity. And we glory in the promise of redemption in the resurrection."
Obama said the Easter breakfast, along with a recent Passover Seder and a Ramadan dinner last fall, was part of his pledge to make the White House "a place where all people would feel welcome." Presidential aides also said it gave Obama the opportunity to thank Christian leaders for their community service.
"For those who are wondering or have doubts about whether he is authentically Christian, I think today's message puts all doubts to rest," said the Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell, another Houston megachurch pastor who attended Tuesday's breakfast.
Obama's father was a Kenyan Muslim-turned-atheist, his mother an agnostic, and his Indonesian stepfather an unorthodox Muslim. Caldwell, who is close to Obama and his predecessor, President George W. Bush, said he is galled by the number of Americans -- one in 10 according to a 2009 poll -- who refuse to believe Obama is Christian.
Caldwell was also one of about 20 black clergy -- from denominational heads to pastors who knew Obama when he was a community organizer in Chicago -- who gathered with the president privately before the breakfast.
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Sorry...
But isn't a barf alert automatically understood when ever 0bamacommie opens his mouth?
See post 21. He hasn’t changed. He just needs to fool some people. And they will be. Unfortunately.
There. Fixed.
There are ways to profess your Christian faith. Truthfully testifying, not just the “blah, blah, blah” he is making.
Yeah, I have to agree - that needed a barf alert. You’re forgiven!
You mean, like maybe living a life that shows you actually believe? Like speaking consistently as if you really believe irrespective of which way the wind is blowing?
Silly me.. Smoke and mirrors and nonspecific phraseology are easier because it is from the contents of the heart that the mouth speaks. And therein lies the problem with this poser...
Who writes these sentences for Obama?
This sentence as written means he (presumably Christ, note Obama's usage of the lower case "h" in referring to the Saviour of mankind) even showed grace to those who didn't kill him. (i.e. They would have killed him, but they didn't.) Christ was even showing grace to those who didn't kill him? Huh? What is significant about that?
I think most Christians would say "He even showed grace to those who would (were about to) kill Him," or "He even showed grace to those who killed Him."
Is the POPE CATHOLIC?
Ummm.. Yes. Unfortunately it is dark...
That's a spiritual comment, not a racial one, lest someone gets their mammaries stuck in an old fashioned clothes de-watering device...
Isn't humility normally present when one "bares" ones soul? "For I have sworn thee fair, and thought thee bright, who art as black as hell, as dark as night." --Shakespeare
Well, that’s not for me to judge. Islam does not recognize Christ crucified for sins.
His being Christian or not is irrelevant to the harm he’s doing the country anyway.
He talks as if Christ were a distant hero. Not the Saviour of the World, or even his personal Saviour.
What say you? Would you consider Mr. Obama Christian?
Yes it is. Christians are to be accountable one to another. And deceivers are to be exposed.
You will know them by their ‘fruits’
What soul?
No, I have never considered Zero to be a Christian. Black liberation theology is also pseudo Christian (like Aryan nation but for blacks not whites). But even then I am one of those who fully believes he is muslim.
Which also would explain his lack of Christology. Muslims consider Jesus to only be a lesser prophet.
And your post #29 is dead on about how a Christian would word this.
No, it’s not. If someone says they’re a Christian and talk about Christ crucified for our sins and redemption, then it is not within my power to see inside that person’s heart and call him deceiver just because I hate his politics. Careful.
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