Posted on 04/03/2010 8:31:24 AM PDT by Wontsubmit
American Jewish leaders on Friday denounced a Vatican official's likening of anti-Catholicism during the church's escalating abuse crisis to "collective violence" against Jews, but predicted it would not deal a severe blow to the two faiths' often-strained relationship. "What a sad irony this would be on Good Friday, where so much of the anti-Semitism was brought about by the church against Jews," said Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League. "Anti-Semitism was pogroms, inquisitions, expulsions that led to death ... What a grotesque comparison." During a Good Friday sermon, Pope Benedict XVI's personal preacher compared accusations against the pope and the Catholic church in the abuse scandal to "collective violence" suffered by the Jews. The priest, the Rev. Raniero Cantalamessa, quoted a letter from a Jewish friend who wrote that the accusations reminded him of the "more shameful aspects of anti-Semitism."
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Depends on whether you’ve got shoes on.
No, he commissioned the Catholic Church and sustained it with Apostolic Succession.
Bless you and yours during this Holy Season.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
No, he commissioned the Catholic Church and sustained it with Apostolic Succession.
Do you really believe that YHvH,
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
the creator of the universe
needs a man-made enterprise ?
Oh. I am awfully sorry. I meant to refer to the Inquisition.
There is no confusion in the Truth. It is only the serpent who spreads lies, division and hate...very often through his useful idiots, like you.
That is a specious question; God created the Catholic Church and more than a billion Catholics need the Church.
That is a wonderful witness of your walk with the Messiah.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
I've seen this "witness" many times before. His loved ones must be proud. :-)
That is a specious question; God created the Catholic Church and more than a billion Catholics need the Church.
It is direct question and speaks directly to the false Aramaic See: To assign YHvH's NAME to a mere mortal, As usual you avoid the question.
understanding and total disregard for Yah'shua reference
to himself as the Rock.
Do the writings of the "church fathers" trump or impugn the Holy Word of G-d ? Matthew. 16:18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this Rock I will build my church,
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
One method of Hermeneutical understanding of Matthew 16:18
is to do a word study of all the scriptures which were then known
as the Holy Word of G-d when Yah'shua spoke these words.
This will allow one to understand that all of the Holy Word of G-d
was inspired by YHvH; the whole counsel of G-d.
The only conclusion that one can come to unless you are
predisposed to believe in man's tradition over the Holy Word of G-d
is that Yah'shua was speaking of himself as the "Rock "
e.g.
Peter himself refers to Yah'shua as the "rock" in
Genesis 49:24 But his bow remained steady, his strong arms stayed
[Or archers will attack...will shoot...will remain...will stay] supple,
because of the hand of the Mighty One of Jacob,
because of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel,
Deuteronomy 32:3 I will proclaim the name of YHvH. Oh, praise the greatness of our God!
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock , his works are perfect, and all his ways are
just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he.
Deuteronomy 32:15 ..... He abandoned the God who made him and rejected the Rock his Saviour.
Deuteronomy 32:30 How could one man chase a thousand, or two put ten
thousand to flight, unless their Rock had sold them, unless
YHvH had given them up?
Deuteronomy 32:31 For their rock is not like our Rock , as even our enemies concede
Deuteronomy 32:32 Their vine comes from the vine of Sodom and from the fields of Gomorrah.
Their grapes are filled with poison, and their clusters with bitterness.
1 Samuel 2:2 "There is no-one holy [Or no Holy One] like YHvH;
there is no-one besides you; there is no Rock like our God.
2 Samuel 22:2 He said: "YHvH is my Rock , my fortress and my deliverer;
2 Samuel 22:3 my God is my Rock , in whom I take refuge, my shield and the
horn [Horn here symbolises strength.] of my salvation.
He is my stronghold, my refuge and my saviour from violent men you save me.
2 Samuel 22:32 For who is God besides YHvH? And who is the Rock except our God?
2 Samuel 22:47 "YHvH lives! Praise be to my Rock ! Exalted be God, the Rock , my Saviour!
2 Samuel 23:3 The God of Israel spoke, the Rock of Israel said to me:
'When one rules over men in righteousness, when he rules in the fear of God,
Psalm 18:31 For who is God besides YHvH? And who is the Rock except our God?
Psalm 18:46 YHvH lives! Praise be to my Rock ! Exalted be God my Saviour!
Psalm 19:14 May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.
Psalm 42:9 I say to God my Rock , "Why have you forgotten me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy?"
Psalm 78:35 They remembered that God was their Rock , that God Most High was their Redeemer.
Psalm 89:26 He will call out to me, `You are my Father, my God, the Rock my Saviour.'
Psalm 92:15 ..... "YHvH is upright; he is my Rock , and there is no wickedness in him."
Psalm 95:1 Come, let us sing for joy to YHvH; let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation.
Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH my Rock , who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.
Habakkuk 1:12 Oh YHvH, are you not from everlasting? My God, my Holy
One, we will not die. Oh YHvH, you have appointed them to
execute judgment; O Rock , you have ordained them to punish.
1 Peter 2:1-10 NAsbU 1 Peter 2:
It is patently clear from the Holy Word of G-d
1 Therefore, putting aside all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander,
2 like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation,
3 if you have tasted the kindness of YHvH.
4 And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God,
5 you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices
acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
6 For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone,
AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
7 This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve, "THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED,
THIS BECAME THE VERY CORNER stone,"
8 and, "A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE"; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word,
and to this doom they were also appointed.
9 But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God's OWN POSSESSION,
so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
10 for you once were NOT A PEOPLE, but now you are THE PEOPLE OF GOD; you had NOT RECEIVED MERCY,
but now you have RECEIVED MERCY.
that the NAME "Rock" is a NAME that describes YHvH,
the creator of the universe.
a created being, seeks to impugn and
deny the Holy Word of G-d.
I've seen this "witness" many times before. His loved ones must be proud. :-)
There are very very few members of the RCC It speaks volumes to the disposition and nature Something like "you will know them by their fruits". You are absolutely correct
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
that demonstrate the Chesed of Yah'shua.
of the teachings of the RCC.
Sounds a lot like anti-Christian...Happy passover.
Do not persist in "reading my mind". Your claim to being somehow special in God's eyes does not extend to your status on Free Republic.
Do not persist in attempting to quiz me with specious questions premised with falsehoods. I will not engage in a suspension of disbelief to further humor you.
Do not persist in conveying a knowledge of the Catechism and dogma of the Catholic Church that you clearly lack. You might be able to bluff your homeboys and even a moderator or two but knowledgeable Catholics know what you are full of.
Every true follower of Jesus (or Yah’shua, or whatever language you say His name in) believes the ideas below, whether they are Roman Catholic or not:
(Original) Creed of Nicea, AD 325
We believe in one God the Father All-sovereign,
maker of all things.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father, only-begotten, that is, of the substance of the Father, God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten not made,
of one substance with the Father, through whom all things were made, things in heaven and things on the earth;
who for us men and for our salvation came down and was made flesh,
and became man, suffered, and rose on the third day, ascended into the heavens, and is coming to judge living and dead.
And in the Holy Spirit.
And those that say ‘There was when he was not,’ and, ‘Before he was begotten he was not,’ and that, ‘He came into being from what-is-not,’ or those that allege, that the son of God is ‘Of another substance or essence’ or ‘created,’ or ‘changeable’ or ‘alterable,’ these the Catholic and Apostolic Church anathematizes.
You think the Inquisition was Christian? I don’t. To each his own, however.
Secondly, this is exactly what I complained about on another thread. A bunch of hypocritical "American Jewish leaders" (most of whom are probably as liberal as all get-out) don't want liberal anti-Catholicism compared to traditional chr*stian anti-Semitism. But guess what? Both are visited on people who refuse to "update" their religions. I think it is quite apropos to compare liberal fury at recalcitrant chr*stianity with earlier chr*stian fury at recalcitrant Jews.
Of course, Jewish history has been reinterpreted entirely so that now everyone is taught that the Jews have suffered for the modern concept of "religious freedom" which was totally unknown in Biblical times. Jews suffered for the Torah, not for Voltaire's view of the world. But just try to get that through anyone's head in this day and time.
I agree. Then liberal Jews came along and rejected the Torah for "social justice" and "gay rights." And I'm afraid this is the type of "Jewish leader" who is raising this particular firestorm.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
You ever read Romans 11??? If God had not ignored his chosen for 2000 years, you could never be a Christian...
If you believe John in his Gospel he says that Yah'shua is the Word of G-d. You seem to impugn the Holy Word of G-d with man made traditions.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
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