Posted on 03/31/2010 3:45:30 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
I'll go with the Holy Scripture..
I was taught that the 3 Days mean that it was on Friday {1st Day} Saturday{2nd day} and Sunday{3rd Day}. It means it fell on 3 separate days of the calender not necessarly exactly 72 hours of 3 days.
Does the day matter? Or does the reality of the cross and resurection matter?
It helps to actually understand the Bible. I wish Protestants did. It’s interesting to me how so many of fallen for this latest Protestant fad tickling their ears.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08377a.htm
Some Protestants still get it right: http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=2200
I heard it about 35 years ago.
That’s pretty recent. Even a 100 years is still recent.
Well....the Catholic/Protestant fairy tale of a Friday crucifixion/Sunday morning resurrection can be dismissed entirely without too much investigation. The scenario begins to fall apart almost immediately. But....the mythology of a 72 hour period of time [Matthew 12:40] in the tomb is also in error.
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The scripture says.....Heart of the Earth....not the tomb. This is a metaphor describing The Savior's time under the control and custody of mortal mankind. Until His arrest in the garden, after the Last Supper....probably about 3:00/4:00 A.M. on the 14th of Nisan (Passover Preparation).....He was untouchable.
The Jews had been plotting to kill him for some time but were never able to pin Him down. His time had not yet come. He was to be the Passover Lamb slaughtered on the 14th of Nisan as the other lambs were being slaughtered in the temple [Exodus 12:6]. He allowed Himself to be taken into custody at the time of His choosing [John 2:1-4; 5:18; 7:6; 8:20; 12:23; 13:1]....just to name a few passages.
Notice what He himself told us what must happen [Matthew 16:21][Matthew 17:22][Matthew 20:18][Mark 8:31][Mark 9:31][Mark 10:34][Luke 9:22][Luke 18:31][Luke 24:7]. All these scriptures, in essence say....He must be betrayed into the hands of mankind, and they shall mock Him...reject Him...He will suffer many things...be spit upon...beaten and tried by the Chief Priests, Elders and scribes who will kill Him. He will then arise the third day.....after all these things [Luke 24:13-21] Therefore....the 72 hours begins with His arrest and mock trial by the Sanhedrin early on the morning of the 14th [Leviticus 23:5]. He is then brought to Pilate...hustled off to Herod, returned to Pilate and then turned over to the Jews for crucifixion. He has already been in the "Heart of the Earth" for about nine hours. After He dies he is placed in the tomb by Joseph and Nicodemus at sundown of the 14th....and the Passover Seders of the First Sabbath of Unleavened Bread (the 15th) [Leviticus 23:6] are just now beginning throughout Jerusalem.
It is now Wednesday night (our time) the 15th of Nisan A.D.30 and He is spending his first night in the tomb. He will resurrect 72 hours after entering the "Heart of the Earth" about 15 hours earlier. This would put His resurrection on "The First of the Sabbaths" (as scripture confirms) early in the morning of the 17th [Matthew 28:1][Mark 16:2][Luke 24:1][John 20:1].....the First weekly Sabbath (of seven) between Passover and Pentecost [Leviticus 23:15-16]. He had spent His first Day in "The Heart of The Earth" on the Passover, Nisan 14. His first night would be the 15th (Wednesday)...the second day Thursday the 15th and the second night, Thursday the 16th. His third and final day would be Friday the 16th and His final night would be the Sabbath of the 17th. He arises before dawn after spending 72 hours in "The Heart of The Earth".
Gee are you a seven day adventist
Gee are you a seven day adventist
Christ said man was master of the sabbath not the sabbath master of man. Take it eaaasssssyyyy now.
Never been in one of their churches. What are they like? Are you one?
You were taught wrong!
It was a week with two ‘sabbaths,’ Passover, and the regular sabbath two days later.
Christ was crucified on what would be wednesday, and arose on what we would call saturday evening, which by the Jews reckoning was the “first of the sabbaths,” translated incorrectly as the first day of the week in English Bibles, but being really the beginning of the seven sabbaths of Pentecost.
Nothing about the crucifixion and ressurection happened on a sunday.
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?????????? No arguments from me about that!
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“Christ said man was master of the sabbath not the sabbath master of man.”
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Not exactly; he said that the sabbath was created for man, not man for the sabbath. - Man has never been the ‘master’ of the sabbath, but a combatant against it. - This is the reason for Israel being removed from the land.
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For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Matt 12:40
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Matt 12:40
how do you undrstand this?
Speak for your self.. don’t put out links from other people. YOU explain it to me. Think for your self.
You wrote:
“how do you undrstand this?”
Correctly.
“Speak for your self.. don’t put out links from other people. YOU explain it to me. Think for your self.”
I do think for myself. I see no reason to type out what has already been written by someone else. Those who know how Jews told time understand the truth. Others hold your view.
??? Jews mark the end of a day and the start of the next one at sundown. Saturday evening after sundown is Sunday.
The problem is (as far as you folks see it) the scriptures all refer to Sabbath morning:
[Matthew 28:1] And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre,
[Mark 16:2] and early in the morning of the first of the sabbaths, they come unto the sepulchre, at the rising of the sun
[Luke 24:1] And on the first of the sabbaths, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, bearing the spices they made ready, and certain others with them,
[John 20:1] And on the first of the sabbaths, Mary the Magdalene doth come early (there being yet darkness) to the tomb, and she seeth the stone having been taken away out of the tomb,
These passages are all from "Young's Literal Translation" and as you can see....."The First day of the Week" is non-existent in these scriptures. The reason is, because the Greek doesn't say that......
Mr. Young was not heavily influenced by his Protestant upbringing when he compiled his work. He truly attempted to translate "Literally" and that's one reason his Bible is difficult to read.
This is why I wrote this in post #7: It is now Wednesday night (our time) the 15th of Nisan A.D.30 and He is spending his first night in the tomb. He will resurrect 72 hours after entering the "Heart of the Earth" about 15 hours earlier. This would put His resurrection on "The First of the Sabbaths" (as scripture confirms) early in the morning of the 17th [Matthew 28:1][Mark 16:2][Luke 24:1][John 20:1].....the First weekly Sabbath (of seven) between Passover and Pentecost [Leviticus 23:15-16]. He had spent His first Day in "The Heart of The Earth" on the Passover, Nisan 14. His first night would be the 15th (Wednesday)...the second day Thursday the 15th and the second night, Thursday the 16th. His third and final day would be Friday the 16th and His final night would be the Sabbath of the 17th. He arises before dawn after spending 72 hours in "The Heart of The Earth".
To all you folks in "Rio Linda"....that means....He arose Saturday morning....before dawn!
Yes, it would be a sunday to a Jew, but still Saturday to a Roman!
That is the essence of this ancient error. - The writings in the gospels were at first to mainly Jews, so the terms used were in the cultural vernacular of the Jew.
It was the “first of the sabbaths,” a clear plural, that was misunderstood by the English translators that were not knowledgeable on many colloquial expressions that were in the gospels. They thus failed to understand that what was being addressed was Pentecost specifically, and not just a day of the week.
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