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To: TaraP

The shroud has been carbon dated no older than the 13th century.


14 posted on 03/25/2010 1:06:22 PM PDT by kjo
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To: kjo

That theory has been debunked. If I remember correctly the carbon dating was done on patched parts of the shroud...or somesuch!


16 posted on 03/25/2010 1:08:32 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: kjo

Not anymore...They have un-covered the piece of the Shroud carbon dated was the corner of the cloth that had been replaced by the fire in the 13th century.


18 posted on 03/25/2010 1:08:44 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: kjo

There is still a lot of controversy regarding the carbon dating of the shroud.


26 posted on 03/25/2010 1:15:52 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: kjo; All
Some food for thought in Post #310 of the thread linked here:

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27 posted on 03/25/2010 1:17:21 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: kjo
The shroud has been carbon dated no older than the 13th century.

You are so behind the times. Do some research - you'll find even the scientist who carbon dated' it - now recognize that the tiny piece of cloth they had to date was from patches woven in after the monastery fire in the 1200...

Do some research - with an open mind.

Don't believe everything you hear. Check out both sides an an issue.

there are many who will do/say anything to prove the Shroud a hoax. They will ignore 1,000 positive clues and grab for ONE that might be in variance.

We have the internet at our fingertips these days. No excuse for ignorance.

71 posted on 03/25/2010 2:00:43 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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"The shroud has been carbon dated no older than the 13th century."

Patently untrue. The radiocarbon dating tests to which you refer have long since been shot down for numerous reasons, the primary being the fact that the samples tested came from a re-woven area of the Shroud vs. original cloth. That is established fact.

See the work of the late Sue Benford and the fantastic paper on the topic by the late Ray Rogers (of Los Alamos).

I suggest that you (frankly, everyone) do your homework before saying such things that have been disproven or shot down for years.

102 posted on 03/25/2010 5:06:12 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: kjo

No. A 13th Century patch has been carbon dated no older than the 13th Century.


104 posted on 03/25/2010 5:11:21 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: kjo
The shroud has been carbon dated no older than the 13th century.

' Actually, no, it hasn't. It has now been conclusively been proved that what was tested in 1988 was a medieval patch made of a mixture of more modern cotton material and older original Linen material... The body of the Shroud itself is pure linen. Since the C14 sample was a melange of cotton and linen, the reported dates are also a melange of the ages of the cotton (estimated c.1650) and the linen (unknown origin). However, Harry Gove, the inventor of the technique used in the 1988 C14 testing, when asked what age the linen would have to have been to give the test dates the 1988 C14 test reported in the proportions of cotton to linen observed in the surviving sample, said that give or take 100 years, First century.

127 posted on 03/25/2010 8:05:09 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: kjo
Through faulty sampling, in one area which has since been shown by type of weave, composition of the cloth, and other factors, to have been taken from a patched (re-woven) area, yes.

Learn to get up to speed before posting drivel.

Cheers!

141 posted on 03/25/2010 9:42:51 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: kjo

“The shroud has been carbon dated no older than the 13th century.”

You are missing important information about that initial attempt to date the shroud.


158 posted on 03/26/2010 5:33:06 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: kjo

“The shroud has been carbon dated no older than the 13th century.”

No, the patches have been carbon dated to around the fourteenth century...get informed. These patches also contained dye, which the original parts of the shroud do not contain.


193 posted on 03/26/2010 6:43:27 PM PDT by Wpin (I Choose Liberty)
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To: kjo
There was a fire in the 13th century that burned edges of the fabric, which was re-edged and hemmed. The mistake the original Carbon-14 testers made was reportedly uncovered when much older pollen was found on other parts of the cloth, and then follow-up tests on the fabric.

I could be convinced one way or the other, since the truth of the Gospel accounts does not rest on this one piece of physical evidence. However the image is impressive to many, including experts, as being amazingly detailed and well-preserved, of no known method of human fabrication, and showing the awful torture involved in Roman crucifixion.

264 posted on 03/29/2010 2:02:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: kjo

“The shroud has been carbon dated no older than the 13th century.”

Your information is incomplete. The carbon dating was of a patch used to repair the damage from a fire.


334 posted on 04/02/2010 6:14:10 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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