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THE LORD SHOWED ABRAHAM THE STARS -Mormon- (OPEN)
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Posted on 03/20/2010 8:25:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

ABRAHAM 3:1–17
THE LORD SHOWED ABRAHAM THE STARS

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Abraham 3:1 . What Is the Urim and Thummim?

Urim and thummim come from Hebrew words meaning “lights” and “perfections.” The title Urim and Thummim was given to an instrument the Lord prepared to assist man in obtaining revelation and in translating languages. The earliest use of the Urim and Thummim mentioned in the scriptures is associated with the brother of Jared (see Ether 3:21–28 ).

The Prophet Joseph Smith was given the Urim and Thummim that had previously been in the possession of the brother of Jared (see D&C 17:1 ). The Prophet described them as being “two stones in silver bows—and these stones, fastened to a breastplate, constituted what is called the Urim and Thummim” ( Joseph Smith—History 1:35 ).

The scriptures reveal that there were more than one Urim and Thummim. While the prophets of the Book of Mormon were using one set of stones (see Omni 1:20–21 ; Mosiah 8:13–19 ; 21:26–28 ; 28:11–20 ), the prophets of the Old Testament were using another (see Exodus 28:30 ; Numbers 27:21 ; Deuteronomy 33:8 ; 1 Samuel 28:6 ; Ezra 2:63 ).

Abraham 3:2–16 . The Name of the Great One Is Kolob

President Joseph Fielding Smith wrote: “The Lord made known to him the following facts: That Kolob is the first creation, and is nearest to the celestial, or the residence of God. It is the first in government, the last pertaining to the measurement of time. This measurement is according to celestial time. One day in Kolob is equal to a thousand years according to the measurement of this earth, which by the Egyptians was called Jah-oh-eh. Oliblish, so called by the Egyptians, stands next to Kolob in the grand governing creation near the celestial, or place where God resides. This great star is also a governing star and is equal to Kolob in its revolutions and in its measuring of time. Other grand governing stars were also revealed to Abraham” ( Man: His Origin and Destiny [1954], 461.)

Abraham 3:2–10, 16–17 . Other Governing Stars

Abraham learned that, like Kolob, there were other stars that were “very great,” and that these great stars were governing stars (see Abraham 3:2–3 ). The Lord taught Abraham about “the set time of all the stars” ( v. 10 ; see also vv. 4–9 ). Abraham also learned that there are other governing stars located nearer to Kolob and that they rotate more slowly, or “longer,” than many other stars (but not more slowly than Kolob).

Abraham 3:3–4 . “The Same Order as That upon Which Thou Standest”

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The Lord’s teachings about stars and planets helped Abraham understand more about this earth and its relationship to Kolob. For example, he taught Abraham that one day on Kolob was equal to one thousand years of time on our earth (see Abraham 3:4 ).

Abraham 3:5–7 . The Measurement of Time May Vary

“Abraham learned that bodies in space have different periods of revolution and that they move in their own time frames of reference ( Abr. 3:4 ). Each planet, or star, operates according to a time base which is set by its location from a central, governing body. . . .

“To further clarify, let us consider a moon explorer who is faced with an extended stay on the moon’s surface. After a while, he finds it more convenient to redefine his time base in terms of the sun’s motion across the moon sky (his new environment). Following the method he remembers from his experiences on earth (the old environment), he defines the moon day as beginning when the sun rises at one place on the horizon and ending when the sun sets on the opposite horizon. . . .

“Long after the moon days, months and years are well established for the intrepid moon voyager, he compares his moon system to the earthly calendar. He finds that one full moon day (complete rotation) corresponds to approximately 29 earth days. . . . The moon observer agrees that his day passes much slower than the days that are reckoned on the earth” (Fred Holmstrom, “Astronomy and the Book of Abraham,” Sidney B. Sperry Symposium, 1982: The Pearl of Great Price [1982], 110–11).

Abraham 3:13 . The Lord Knows All of His Creations

The Lord identified by name several of the planets or stars in His creations. Speaking of His numerous and marvelous works, the Lord said:

“There are many worlds that have passed away by the word of my power. And there are many that now stand, and innumerable are they unto man; but all things are numbered unto me, for they are mine and I know them. . . .

“. . . The heavens, they are many, and they cannot be numbered unto man; but they are numbered unto me, for they are mine” ( Moses 1:35, 37 ).

Abraham 3:14 . “I Will Multiply Thee, and Thy Seed after Thee”

The Lord fulfilled His promise to Abraham regarding his posterity, for many billions of people have been born on this earth who can consider themselves his children. The promise of great posterity applies to all the faithful. Elder Joseph Fielding Smith, when he was a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, taught:

“The children of Abraham, if they will keep the covenant as they receive it in the house of the Lord, shall, as Abraham their father, continue on through all eternity to increase, and there shall be no end to their posterity. In this way the blessings of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, are extended to them, and they become partakers to the fullest extent. For there is to be a continuation of the ‘seeds forever’ among those who receive exaltation in the kingdom of God” ( The Way to Perfection, 96).

Abraham 3:16–17 . Stars Differ in Greatness

Abraham learned that wherever there are two stars one will be greater than the other, and that there are other stars greater than those two, until Kolob, which is the greatest of all. He learned that it is not size that makes one star or planet greater than another, but rather its proximity to Kolob. So it is with the children of God—their greatness and glory will depend upon their proximity to the Creator, Jesus Christ, who is “nearest unto the throne of God,” “the great one,” “the first creation,” and is “set to govern all those which belong to the same order.” Thus the great star, Kolob, is a symbol of Jesus Christ.

Abraham 3:17 . The Perfections of the Lord God

God sees to completion the actual accomplishment of everything that He takes into His heart. How different this is from the nature of mankind. The Lord explained:

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways. . . .

“For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts” ( Isaiah 55:8–9 ).



TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other non-Christian; Religion & Science; Theology
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To: svcw; wendy1946; Godzilla; restornu; greyfoxx39

Notice that not one single Mormon has the tiniest little thing to say in the defense of this hooey? Not even our intrepid and valiant Resty!


41 posted on 03/25/2010 9:49:40 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: greyfoxx39; mrreaganaut

My husband would LOVE one of those.


42 posted on 03/25/2010 10:02:40 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: wendy1946

evolution ???

Well, Joey Smith believed that Mommy planets and Daddy planets had Baby planets ...


43 posted on 03/25/2010 10:21:28 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: T Minus Four; svcw; wendy1946; restornu; greyfoxx39
Notice that not one single Mormon has the tiniest little thing to say in the defense of this hooey?

Of course not. this would expose the fraud that the POGP (and more specifically the book of abraham) for what it is.

44 posted on 03/25/2010 10:29:01 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: T Minus Four

Really T, how can anyone defend this idiocracy.


45 posted on 03/25/2010 10:43:22 AM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; Zakeet; Tennessee Nana; FastCoyote; aMorePerfectUnion; ...
ThuRsday
46 posted on 03/25/2010 11:33:39 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.)
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To: reaganaut

LOL!!! I do love the desk, but I don’t know whether to make a Stargate joke or a Ghostbusters joke!

“Ray, when someone asks you if you’re a god, say YES!”

Of course, in Stargate, they had cureloms...


47 posted on 03/25/2010 11:35:40 AM PDT by mrreaganaut (Battlestar Galactica: Another Testimony of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints)
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To: greyfoxx39

Thanks for the reminder.


48 posted on 03/25/2010 11:35:50 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: mrreaganaut

How about an Indy IV joke. :)


49 posted on 03/25/2010 11:37:04 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

“Throw me the idol, and I throw you the whip!”


50 posted on 03/25/2010 11:41:50 AM PDT by mrreaganaut (Battlestar Galactica: Another Testimony of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints)
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To: mrreaganaut

“Throw me your checkbook, and I throw you the Book of Mormon!”


51 posted on 03/25/2010 11:48:07 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: mrreaganaut; Godzilla; ejonesie22

Of course, in Stargate, they had cureloms...
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In another website I saw a nickname...

Dances with Cureloms...

:)


52 posted on 03/25/2010 11:57:43 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: mrreaganaut

“I HATE snakes !!!”

(”Cureloms are OK though”)


53 posted on 03/25/2010 11:59:12 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut

“Throw me your checkbook, and I throw you the Book of Mormon!”
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LOL


54 posted on 03/25/2010 12:00:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39

INDEED!


55 posted on 03/25/2010 12:03:56 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: greyfoxx39
Chances are that Mitt Romney believes all this.

And that means he probably also thinks the bulk of his Republican constinuency...
...those he expects votes from...
...those who are almost 75% of the country...(& higher among Republicans)...
...are what Mormon doctrine describes as "apostates."

So, here...
...national Mormon politicians usually fail to show discernment of world religions...
...and we're going to somehow entrust them to get Islam right????
...And secondly, here they offend the overwhelming base of voters...
...And yet still ask, "Can I have you vote then?"

56 posted on 03/25/2010 12:45:50 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: T Minus Four

The NEW memo said:

Ignore what you can’t explain.


57 posted on 03/25/2010 3:14:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
So, here...
...national Mormon politicians usually fail to show discernment of world religions...

WORLD?

Heck!

They can't even get their own right!


http://www.4mormon.org/mormon-splinter-groups.php

58 posted on 03/25/2010 3:22:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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placemark


59 posted on 03/25/2010 4:17:31 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: greyfoxx39

Thank you for reminding me!


60 posted on 03/25/2010 5:26:51 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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