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A Protestant Discovers Mary
NC Register ^ | March 13, 2010

Posted on 03/14/2010 12:14:46 PM PDT by NYer

Romano Guardini wrote in his book on the Rosary, “To linger in the domain of Mary is a divinely great thing. One does not ask about the utility of truly noble things, because they have their meaning within themselves. So it is of infinite meaning to draw a deep breath of this purity, to be secure in the peace of this union with God.”

Guardini was speaking of spending time with Mary in praying the Rosary, but David Mills, in his latest book, Discovering Mary, helps us linger in the domain of Mary by opening up to us the riches of divine revelation, both from tradition and Scripture. Mills, a convert from the Episcopal Church, former editor of the Christian journal Touchstone and editor of the 1998 book of essays commemorating the centennial of C.S. Lewis’ birth The Pilgrim’s Guide: C. S. Lewis and the Art of Witness, as well as the author of Knowing the Real Jesus (2001), has written a rock-solid introduction to the Blessed Virgin Mary, and done so with intellectual rigor and an affable tone.

His book begins with an introduction in which he describes how he came to discover the riches of the Church’s teachings on Mary: “I began to see how a sacred vessel is made holy by the sacred thing it carries,” he writes. “I began to feel this in a way I had not before. I found myself developing an experiential understanding of Mary and indeed a Marian devotion. Which surprised me. It surprised me a lot.”

Unfortunately, he notes, he did not learn about Mary from contemporary Catholics, nor in homilies, “even on Marian feast days.” It seems he learned on his own by reading magisterial documents and going back to Scriptures in light of those documents.

This book shares the fruit of that study. Mills examines the life of Mary, Mary in the Bible, Mary in Catholic doctrine, Marian feast days and the names of Mary. He includes an appendix full of references to papal documents and books on Mary.

Most of the book is done in a question-and-answer format, which usually works well, although at times it feels awkward. Would someone really ask, for instance, “What is happening in the liturgy on the Marian feast days?”

But most of the questions are natural. “What is the point of Marian devotion?” Mills asks. It is “to live the Catholic life as well as we can,” he answers. “This means going ever more deeply into the mystery of Christ, to become saintlier, more conformed to his image, by following Mary’s example and by turning to her for help and comfort.”

Next question: “Does devotion to Mary detract from our devotion to Christ?”

“Christians since the beginning of serious Marian devotion have been careful to emphasize Mary’s subordination to her son,” Mills replies. “In fact, they have said it so often that the reader begins to expect it. In the fifth century St. Ambrose put it nicely: ‘Mary was the temple of God, not the god of the temple.’”

David Mills, with the same radical clarity he showed in Knowing the Real Jesus, has written what has to be one of the best, if not the very best, short introductions to Catholic teaching on Mary, the Mother of God. Discovering Mary is ideal for those wanting to know more about her, whether they be skeptics, Protestants, or Catholics who don’t know the Mother of the Church well enough.

Franklin Freeman writes from Saco, Maine.


DISCOVERING MARY

Answers to Questions About the Mother of God

By David Mills

Servant Books, 2009

148 pages, $12.99

To order: servantbooks.org


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Mainline Protestant
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To: RnMomof7

ah, some more intercessions?


301 posted on 03/15/2010 7:09:08 PM PDT by Cronos (Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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To: John Leland 1789

ABSOLUTLEY, INDEED.

Thanks for your kind and accurate post.


302 posted on 03/15/2010 7:09:19 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Cronos; Titanites; NYer
Oh, I'm not going to discredit the author...

Nice to see.

Paul Johnson, "A History of Christianity".

Pg. 77 It was common for the State or private interest groups to push their nominees into key Church posts, irrespective of their status. St. Ambrose was baptized, went through the various clerical ranks and was consecrated bishop of Milan all within eight days.

303 posted on 03/15/2010 8:09:04 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
As is the case among those who read the bible in excerpts and their own interpretation, the error in your post is that you did not read it completely (you must also read the bible completely, not just excerpts or quotes)


FACT: St. Ambrose WAS born into a Christian family --> look it up for yourself.

And yes, he wasn't baptised as an infant, because that was not widespread in the 3rd century until St. Augustine. You misunderstood that to say that "Not surprising coming from a man who went from being a pagan to a Bishop in your church in about 2 weeks time"

Now that is a common sola interpretura error which also plays out in the sola's folks's reading of The Bible -- you folks may read one thing like " St Ambrose was baptized, " and ASSUME that he was born a pagan.
That error comes from not having a complete knowledge and presuming that the incomplete knowledge is complete -- you didn't lie, but you made an incorrect assumption based on incomplete and misunderstood facts. That is the folly of relying on an individuals (as opposed to a community of believers stretching back 2000 years) interpretation.
304 posted on 03/15/2010 8:15:15 PM PDT by Cronos (Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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To: betty boop; T Minus Four; Quix; stfassisi; fatima
I have attempted to struggle along in the Light of the Holy Spirit, not having had a "proper" theological education. My resources: the Bible; the Catholic Catechism; papal encyclicals. These, plus my own hard-won experience as a lover of God, produce the worldview that I hold today.

I gladly testify that you are my dearest sister in Christ! I say this because I see all of the fruits of the Spirit in you.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. - Galatians 5:22-23

I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. – John 15:5

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. - Matthew 7:17

You obviously have had a Spiritual education. That's the important part, not a theological education.

But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. - John 14:26

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. - I John 2:29

[There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. - Romans 8:1

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: - John 10:27

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. – Romans 8:9

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. – Colossians 3:3

As you have testified - to which I strongly agree - God the Father has revealed Himself in the Person of Jesus Christ, in the Person of the Indwelling Holy Spirit, in Scriptures and in Creation, both spiritual and physical.

Your spiritual ears and spiritual eyes are wide open, dearest sister in Christ. If anyone ever seeks to demean your spiritual understanding, just count it all joy.

Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.- Matthew 5:11-12

God's Name is I AM.

305 posted on 03/15/2010 10:05:34 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop

You obviously have had a Spiritual education. That’s the important part, not a theological education.

############

INDEED.

And, personally, I’d stack Betty’s spiritual education up favorably against a thousand other blokes who have ThD’s any day of the week, week of the year.


306 posted on 03/15/2010 10:09:47 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; betty boop
And, personally, I’d stack Betty’s spiritual education up favorably against a thousand other blokes who have ThD’s any day of the week, week of the year.

Indeed!

Thank you for your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!

307 posted on 03/15/2010 10:18:51 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

You’re welcome.

I just persistently try to tell it like it is . . . at least as I perceive it to be true, or not.


308 posted on 03/15/2010 10:21:00 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; betty boop
Truly, like Nathanael, there is no guile in you.

Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile! - John 1:47

God's Name is I AM.

309 posted on 03/15/2010 10:31:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: wmfights; Cronos
St. Ambrose was baptized, went through the various clerical ranks and was consecrated bishop of Milan all within eight days.

You claimed he was a pagan. You've shown nothing to demonstrate that he was.

Those so eager to take up the man-made tradition of sola scriptura also seem to be the ones so eager to be sucked into making false claims and revising history.

310 posted on 03/15/2010 10:35:54 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Alamo-Girl

Gonna make me cry again.

It touches me deeply that YOU, Dear Sister, recognize that The Lord has done such a work in me. PRAISE HIS NAME.

BLESSED BE THE WAYS OF THE LORD.


311 posted on 03/16/2010 4:32:10 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
The time has come.

We are in a Marxist takeover.

312 posted on 03/16/2010 4:32:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PELOSI AND SLAUGHTER ARE GOING TO SET FIRE TO THE CONSTITUTION! REVOLT!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

INDEED.

We have been in a Marxist/globalist takeover for more than 100 years as their quotes document here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81

I don’t recall if you’ve read any %% of them, or not.

BE SAFE, BRO—WALK WITH GOD. THERE IS NO OTHER SAFETY.


313 posted on 03/16/2010 4:34:54 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Lazamataz; John Leland 1789; wmfights; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan; the_conscience; ...

CHRIST IS COMING BACK FOR AN OVERCOMING SPOTLESS CHURCH.

That means GOD HAS TO CLEAN US ALL UP INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY.

HE IS ABLE TO THE TASK.

WE SHALL DO GREAT EXPLOITS.

GOD HAS FAR MORE SURPRISES IN STORE FOR THE ENEMY THAN THE ENEMY HAS IN STORE FOR BELIEVERS.

It appears that the alien stuff is going to go tumbling literally out of the skies into more or less everyone’s laps . . . perhaps at the same times—or close to the same time as . . . The average citizen is NOT REMOTELY MENTALLY, EMOTIONALLY, SPIRITUALLY PREPARED FOR SUCH A PARADIGM SHIFTING SET OF HORRORS.

the scheduled economic, infrastructure collapse, WWIII with Israel and Iran, martial law, more overt demonstrations of the global government, kicking off the festivities etc.

imho, The health care bill is about !!!!CONTROL!!!! & The required-to-get care Mark of The Beast. . . . as well as population reduction.

GOD ALONE will be our Provision in such a context.


314 posted on 03/16/2010 4:41:33 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Cronos

Like Paul I pray for the saints...


315 posted on 03/16/2010 4:51:46 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Quix

xxxxxxxx


316 posted on 03/16/2010 6:06:40 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Lazamataz

We sure are!


317 posted on 03/16/2010 6:10:01 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: betty boop

Do you really believe that the mary seen at Fatima was really from God ?


318 posted on 03/16/2010 7:35:35 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: betty boop
Betty:

In Lent, the adversary, being reminded that his time is short, is especially vicious. He clouds the minds of those who do not persistently take refuge in Jesus.

During such an assault appeals to reason will not meet with reasonable response.

Consider this: If someone says, "So and so is dead and in heaven," he is using not the language of the Faith, not the language of Christ and His Church, not even the language of the Bible. Those in heaven live with a life unknown to us on earth "for all live to Him." "Dead and in heaven," strictly speaking, is a meaningless and self-contradictory statement. Those who speak this way indicate that their hearts are still largely informed by the flesh.

In assailing the dogmata concerning our Blessed Mother, they denigrate the promises to the Faithful. Is her heart immaculate? So will be the hearts of the Saints in Heaven? Do they argue that she should be deprived of what is promised to all the faithful?

They complain at the teaching that she is queen. The Bible teaches that all the blessed are a royal (that is, kingly) priesthood. If they were to be taken at their word, on the last day she would be the only saint in heaven who was NOT king or queen.

But this is not the time of year to contend. This is the time to direct our minds and open our hearts to the light of Love which shines even in the darkness of betrayal and death.

319 posted on 03/16/2010 8:25:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

I will refrain from replying to your points out of deference to your perspective on Lent, Bro.


320 posted on 03/16/2010 8:35:24 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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