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To: Cronos; Titanites; NYer
Oh, I'm not going to discredit the author...

Nice to see.

Paul Johnson, "A History of Christianity".

Pg. 77 It was common for the State or private interest groups to push their nominees into key Church posts, irrespective of their status. St. Ambrose was baptized, went through the various clerical ranks and was consecrated bishop of Milan all within eight days.

303 posted on 03/15/2010 8:09:04 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
As is the case among those who read the bible in excerpts and their own interpretation, the error in your post is that you did not read it completely (you must also read the bible completely, not just excerpts or quotes)


FACT: St. Ambrose WAS born into a Christian family --> look it up for yourself.

And yes, he wasn't baptised as an infant, because that was not widespread in the 3rd century until St. Augustine. You misunderstood that to say that "Not surprising coming from a man who went from being a pagan to a Bishop in your church in about 2 weeks time"

Now that is a common sola interpretura error which also plays out in the sola's folks's reading of The Bible -- you folks may read one thing like " St Ambrose was baptized, " and ASSUME that he was born a pagan.
That error comes from not having a complete knowledge and presuming that the incomplete knowledge is complete -- you didn't lie, but you made an incorrect assumption based on incomplete and misunderstood facts. That is the folly of relying on an individuals (as opposed to a community of believers stretching back 2000 years) interpretation.
304 posted on 03/15/2010 8:15:15 PM PDT by Cronos (Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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To: wmfights; Cronos
St. Ambrose was baptized, went through the various clerical ranks and was consecrated bishop of Milan all within eight days.

You claimed he was a pagan. You've shown nothing to demonstrate that he was.

Those so eager to take up the man-made tradition of sola scriptura also seem to be the ones so eager to be sucked into making false claims and revising history.

310 posted on 03/15/2010 10:35:54 PM PDT by Titanites
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