[greyfoxx39]

The full quote from Smith referred to by Petersen is "The old Catholic church traditions are worth more than all you have said. Here is a principle of logic that most men have no more sense than to adopt. I will illustrate it by an old apple tree. Here jumps off a branch and says, I am the true tree, and you are corrupt. If the whole tree is corrupt, are not its branches corrupt? If the Catholic religion is a false religion, how can any true religion come out of it? If the Catholic church is bad, how can any good thing come out of it?"

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[greyfoxx39]

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[Godzilla]

"The old Catholic church traditions are worth more than all you have said. Here is a principle of logic that most men have no more sense than to adopt. I will illustrate it by an old apple tree. Here jumps off a branch and says, I am the true tree, and you are corrupt. If the whole tree is corrupt, are not its branches corrupt? If the Catholic religion is a false religion, how can any true religion come out of it? If the Catholic church is bad, how can any good thing come out of it?"

Oh my, such underhanded quote snipping. Where are all the kumby ya folks for ecumenicalism on this. How intellectually dishonest.

[colorcountry]

Daniel Peterson? You mean the expert in linguistics? He’s one of the biggest, and I mean BIG, liars in Mormonism.

[vladimir998]

“Here is a principle of logic that most men have no more sense than to adopt. ...If the Catholic religion is a false religion, how can any true religion come out of it? If the Catholic church is bad, how can any good thing come out of it?”

For once I actually agree with Joseph Smith.

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[Dr. Ursus]

Hey,use Catholic and Mormon in the same article and bring
out double the snake handlers

[DannyTN]

From Vatican says Mormon baptisms are invalid

"While the Mormon baptismal rite refers to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, Mormon beliefs about the identity of the three persons is so different from Catholic and mainline Christian belief that "one cannot even consider this doctrine to be a heresy arising from a false understanding of Christian doctrine," said a Vatican explanation of the ruling. "

[svcw]

Now now, we already know you are not to use the actual words of lds.
(They could just be not translated correctly)

[Colofornian]

Of all the religious groups that needs to be most wary of Mormon proselytizing, it should be the Catholic church and its (administrative/priestly/lay) leaders.

The Mormons' best successes in Europe is Spain. The Mormons have been pilfering among Catholics and disassociated Catholics in South & Central America + the U.S.

[Tennessee Nana]

From the Deseret News article on the 2004 FAIR conference :

“[Daniel Peterson] said it is possible to make any religious faith look stupid, and he offered three principles for fairly dealing with other religions: 1) Don’t go to a faith’s enemies for information. Go to its adherents. 2) Don’t compare the best in your faith with the worst in the one you are criticizing. Keep a level playing field. 3) Always leave room for holy envy — what is it that this faith really does well? By following these principles, which Peterson adopted but did not invent, you can study other religions and really learn something beneficial, he said. He’s also convinced that LDS religion is a good lens through which to view other religions.”

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595082665,00.html

[Tennessee Nana]

Nephi 14:10-11:
“And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth. And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many waters; and she had dominion over all the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people.”

2 Nephi 10:16:
“Wherefore, he that fighteth against Zion, both Jew and Gentile, both bond and free, both male and female, shall perish; for they are they who are the whore of all the earth; for they who are not for me are against me, saith our God.”

“What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world”
- The Prophet Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270

“...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels.”
- The Prophet Joseph Smith , The Elders Journal, Joseph Smith Jr., editor, vol.1, no.4, p.60

[Tennessee Nana]

Wednesday, Dec 20, 2006, at 10:47 AM Daniel Peterson Spouts Off On A Jewish Website About Baptism Of Jewish Simon Wiesenthal Posted By Zig DANIEL C. PETERSON - SECTION 2 -Guid- ↑ Daniel C. Peterson, a man EMPLOYED By the Mormon Church, decided to go and tell the Jewish People today that his cult baptised Simon Wiesenthal because Jews "are not worthy enough to receive G-d's eternal blessing on their own.". I wish to let the Jewish Community know that Daniel C. Peterson is a spokesman for the Mormon Church because he is PAID to say these kinds of things. Daniel today went to a Jewish website and wrote the following: "To Rabbi Hier's remark that "It is sacrilegious for the Mormon faith to desecrate [Simon Wiesenthal's] memory by suggesting that Jews on their own are not worthy enough to receive G-ds’ eternal blessing," "I would respond that we Latter-day Saints do, quite unapologetically, insist that Jews "are not worthy enough to receive G-d's eternal blessing" "on their own." http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blog... This guy has no shame when it comes to defending his cult. His comments have been forwarded to the Salt Lake Tribune, The Deseret News, the LDS Church Office Building, and various other news agencies in Utah. I want to make sure the LDS Church knows what this man is doing in their name http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_danielcpeterson_section2.html

[Elsie]

 

Plainly, although none can deny some harsh rhetoric over the years, Mormon respect for Catholics long predates the 2009 centennial of the Cathedral of the Madeleine.

 

I find this VERY hard to believe!!

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temple recommend questions

 

1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

[LadyDoc]

Actually, Young welcomed Catholic nuns when they started a hospital there, and even had his surgery at that hospital.

Presumably Smith would believe the bigoted rants of the Anti Catholic Protestants spread where he grew up in upper NY state...

[RnMomof7]

Yea Joe was big on ceremonies and works based salvation. He actually incorporated some Roman Catholic theology in his cult.. They have the 'spirit prison' (similar concept to purgatory)...and getting a "new name" at the endowment ceremony similar to confirmation in the RC church. They believe one must be baptized (by them) to be saved and the idea that we can influence the eternity of others (praying for the dead).

He of course believed that the Rc was corrupt, and that all the religions that left during the reformation were also corrupt.. remember the endowment ceremony had a preacher be satan