Catholic ping!
55"Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? 56Aren't all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?" 57And they took offense at him.
But Jesus said to them, "Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor."
58And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith.
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Mary was the mother of several children and she was blessed by God the Father....and Jesus her son and my Saviour
Mary is who she is because Jesus is what he is, the Catholic Church has always defined Mary with regards to Jesus as Lord and Savior.
That so many believe that devotion to her is detraction from Him is sad.
Please note that a direct quote from scripture says “and to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time on, this disciple took her into his home.” NOTE THE DIRECT REFERENCE TO “THIS DISCIPLE”. NOT “ALL” (CAPS for emphasis, not shouting at you)
When you freelance scripture, you lose your audience. IMHO.
Correcting a posting error — my full post was actually—
I don’t usually get into these discussions, as I don’t “have a dog in this hunt” but...
Here’s the NIV translation of John 19:26-27 -—
26When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, “Dear woman, here is your son,” 27and to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time on, this disciple took her into his home.
This is NOT what the author puts in his very first ‘scripture’ quotation and interpretation. See below:
**John 19:26 - Jesus makes Mary the Mother of us all as He dies on the Cross by saying “behold your mother.” Jesus did not say “John, behold your mother” because he gave Mary to all of us, his beloved disciples. **
I therefore find the very first line to contain a less than genuine reference to scripture, and cannot support in logic the conclusion that “he (sic) gave Mary to all of us”.
While a direct quote from scripture says “and to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time on, this disciple took her into his home.” NOTE THE DIRECT REFERENCE TO “THIS DISCIPLE”.
When you freelance scripture, you lose your audience. IMHO.
26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. - John 19:26-27
The Scripture clearly states Jesus was speaking to His disciple (John), not His “disciples”, and that His “disciple” took her to “his own home”. He was making provision for His mother, not calling her the mother of all believers.
But hey, why let the Scriptures get in the way of a nice bit of heresy and goddess worship?
As long as you trust (believe, adhere and follow) in the finished (once for all) work of Jesus Christ on the cross as all that is necessary for your salvation, and that all men (and women) born otherwise are in desparate need of this propitiary substitute payment for each of our personal sins, you are saved.
Mary, favored by God to be the human vessel to give human birth to Jesus the Christ, was in need of this salavation as are the rest of all mankind.
Homage, worship and adoration is reserved for God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, all else is idolatry.
Try reading the Bible (the Duay version if need be) alone and w/o commentary to see the single pointed thread common throughout-man is lost and needs God alone to provide a way out of the lost state.
Hey, It is after all, YOUR eternal life at stake.....
Will all of the infallible arbiters of doctrine and infallible interpreters of Scripture present on this thread please identify themselves?
"Do whatever He tells you."
-Mary of Nazareth
And you guys don’t worship Mary, huh?
God abandons Israel for worshiping the Queen of Heaven:
Jeremiah 44:
19 The women added, “When we burned incense to the Queen of Heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did not our husbands know that we were making cakes like her image and pouring out drink offerings to her?”
20 Then Jeremiah said to all the people, both men and women, who were answering him, 21 “Did not the LORD remember and think about the incense burned in the towns of Judah and the streets of Jerusalem by you and your fathers, your kings and your officials and the people of the land? 22 When the LORD could no longer endure your wicked actions and the detestable things you did, your land became an object of cursing and a desolate waste without inhabitants, as it is today. 23 Because you have burned incense and have sinned against the LORD and have not obeyed him or followed his law or his decrees or his stipulations, this disaster has come upon you, as you now see.”
24 Then Jeremiah said to all the people, including the women, “Hear the word of the LORD, all you people of Judah in Egypt. 25 This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: You and your wives have shown by your actions what you promised when you said, ‘We will certainly carry out the vows we made to burn incense and pour out drink offerings to the Queen of Heaven.’
“Go ahead then, do what you promised! Keep your vows! 26 But hear the word of the LORD, all Jews living in Egypt: ‘I swear by my great name,’ says the LORD, ‘that no one from Judah living anywhere in Egypt will ever again invoke my name or swear, “As surely as the Sovereign LORD lives.” 27 For I am watching over them for harm, not for good....
Matthew understood the difference between Jesus’ fleshly and spiritual brothers and so did the person that alerted Jesus to their presence but that obvious statement of Matthew and Jesus would mean Mary had children by Joseph in the typical way.
As this site shows trying to fit myths into the Scriptures distorts the meaning of the Scriptures.(see the Protoevangelium of James)
Can he find a six day Creation anywhere, or is the Bible "too ambiguous?"
DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE PROTESTANT THAT WAS SHIPWRECKED ON A DESERT ISLAND FOR MANY YEARS. HE WAS FINALLY PICKED UP BY A SHIP. AND HE IS ON THE DECK WITH THE CAPTAIN. THE CAPTAIN LOOKS OUT AT THE ISLAND AND SEES 3 STRUCTURES AND ASKS WHY. THE PROTESTANT SAYS THE 1ST ONE IS MY HOME. THE 2ND IS MY CHURCH AND THE 3RD IS THE CHURCH I USE TO GO TOO. ALWAYS GOING TO AND FRO NEVER COMING TO A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE TRUTH THAT THE CHURCH CAME 1ST THEN THE COMPLETE BIBLE IN THE CHURCH COUNCIL OF NICEA 300AD’S TO WEED OUT THE 4 DOZEN PHONY “GOSPELS”.
The church formed of true believers, is here compared to the queen, whom, by an everlasting covenant, the Lord Jesus has betrothed to himself. This is the bride, the Lamb's wife, whose graces are compared to fine linen, for their purity; to gold, for their costliness: for as we owe our redemption, so we owe our adorning, to the precious blood of the Son of God.
Matthew Henry'
The Scriptures, from beginning to end are about Christ NOT MARY
The woman in Revelation 12:17 is Israel, the nation that birthed Him..note the crown of 12 stars representing the 12 tribes.. Note that there is not one mention of Mary being seen in the Revelation account of Heaven, no queen sitting next to King Jesus on the throne.. no Mary mentioned at all because scripture is all about Christ
That scripture is not about Mary it is about Christ. His first miracle was one that pointed to the plan of salvation.. The water that was changed to wine was in the ritual cleansing jugs, wine that is a symbol of the blood of Christ filled those cleansing jars. Because His blood is what cleanses us from our sin.. those Jewish ritual washing jars were considered unclean once they held wine and could be used no more.. This is about Jesus
So does the King of Kings and Lord of Lords bow down to his mother? NO SHE MUST BOW BEFORE HIM..
Phil 10: 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
That includes Mary who must bow before Jesus and proclaim HIM her Lord
This is made up out of whole cloth, the scripture does not say that it is pure Isogesis as is all of his work here..
Destroying it.. does this point to Mary?