[Salvation]

Yes, I realize that — I was trying to point out that some were not really Catholic and/or recognized by the Vatican.

[Cronos]

Sorry, that wasn't directed at you :)

I think anti-utopian may have fallen under an understandable error: he's mixed 2 groups:

1. different rites within The Church
2. Protestant groups that use the "Catholic" word in their title but are as Protestant as the ELCA or worse (the American... allows gay priests, doesn't it?).

His error is understandable to those who don't know -- you do a commendable job of explaining it