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1 posted on 02/20/2010 6:28:41 AM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: Free Vulcan

‘Paul Crawford’. a Catholic without conviction. UnF’n believable.< /s>


2 posted on 02/20/2010 6:32:27 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Free Vulcan

What’s to discuss? It’s prejudicial. The only way it wouldn’t be is if everyone in the court had ash on their foreheads.


3 posted on 02/20/2010 6:33:26 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Free Vulcan
I saw one of the leftwing atheist Bamanoids on tv the other day, conspicuously displaying ashes. It was most likely recommended by the 'rat consultants as a way to curry favor with those credulous catholic religious clingers in the electorate.
4 posted on 02/20/2010 6:33:33 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Free Vulcan

He could have wiped it off himself without any prompting but this is a matter of religion and the judge had no authority to ask him to take it off.


5 posted on 02/20/2010 6:33:54 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Free Vulcan

However, Ali Baba can do as he pleases!


7 posted on 02/20/2010 6:35:58 AM PST by SPC CHEESE
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To: Free Vulcan

But burkhas are ok.


11 posted on 02/20/2010 6:38:32 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (God bless)
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To: Free Vulcan

Matthew 6:1 - “Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.”


13 posted on 02/20/2010 6:39:26 AM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Free Vulcan
Prior to the jury returning, an attorney for the defense objected to the marking, and indicated that it could influence the jury in the case. ... Judge Michael Moon agreed and requested the Crawford remove the smudge before the case proceeded
*** For discussion. ***

Nah. I don't think I'll 'discuss' this. As if I follow the (cough) 'logical' progression of thought where this could (blank) lead, it just may get me banned.

And Saturdays are never a good day to get the zot. Plus it's Lent so I'm tryin' real hard to be nice.

14 posted on 02/20/2010 6:41:11 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: Free Vulcan

Matthew 16-18 - "Whenever you fast, do not put on a gloomy face as the hypocrites do, for they neglect their appearance so that they will be noticed by men when they are fasting. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But you, when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face so that your fasting will not be noticed by men, but by your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you."

27 posted on 02/20/2010 6:55:26 AM PST by arturo ("A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Free Vulcan

Can we expect objections to burkas, hijabs and scarves?


28 posted on 02/20/2010 6:55:45 AM PST by relictele
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To: Free Vulcan

I am not a Roman Catholic.

I do not believe the RC Church represents true Christianity.

That said, I find it disgusting that people are objecting to the wearing of ashes, by this lawyer, by Joe Bidet or anyone else.

That is a traditional observance in their faith and should be respected as such.


33 posted on 02/20/2010 6:58:46 AM PST by slorunner
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To: Free Vulcan

This is bald anti-Catholicism. The judge would never have tried this if it involved a Muslim custom or practice.


50 posted on 02/20/2010 7:12:35 AM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: Free Vulcan
Prior to the jury returning, an attorney for the defense objected to the marking, and indicated that it could influence the jury in the case.

Sounds like the defense attorney was shopping for a reason to appeal.

61 posted on 02/20/2010 7:24:00 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Free Vulcan

No, your honor-less.

LLS


66 posted on 02/20/2010 7:31:28 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Free Vulcan
Prior to the jury returning, an attorney for the defense objected to the marking, and indicated that it could influence the jury in the case.

Judge Michael Moon agreed and requested the Crawford remove the smudge before the case proceeded. The attorney did so and the case moved forward without further discussion or incident.

The person ,Crawford that could have objected did not do so. He showed his respect to the authority of the court.

68 posted on 02/20/2010 7:33:02 AM PST by the_daug
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To: Free Vulcan
The judge requested..not ordered..the removal.

There is no problem for non-fanatics.

71 posted on 02/20/2010 7:43:06 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Free Vulcan

This is stupid. If the attorney had gone out and played in dirt and come back with a smudge of dirt on his forehead, nothing would have happened.
However, it happened on Ash Wednesday, so the smudge was recognized as a Catholic symbol, and someone realized that he could make a case out of the ash smudge and make everybody focus on the fact that the attorney was Catholic, and hopefully change some of the jurors’ perception of him.


84 posted on 02/20/2010 8:11:31 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Free Vulcan

“Reject me in front of men and I will reject you in front of my Father.”

The judge is wrong and the attorney is right.


86 posted on 02/20/2010 8:21:40 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Free Vulcan
Half the people at my office were wearing ashes on their foreheads Wednesday - the same exact people who hate Sarah Palin because she didn't abort her "defective" child.
89 posted on 02/20/2010 8:23:47 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Free Vulcan

I’m an Atheist and I wouldn’t have said anything. Last time I checked that’s covered under “Freedom of Speech”. The only plausible argument is the timing, why didn’t he show up with the mark in the morning?


118 posted on 02/20/2010 10:39:09 AM PST by Shane.Fisher
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