Posted on 12/26/2009 9:59:19 AM PST by restornu
That would be funny, except, well...it’s just so sad.
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It is sad. I have spend most of the last 15 years mentoring people (mostly women) who have left the LDS in their transition to traditional Christianity.
Many of these women have mountains of guilt, feelings of inferiority, and self-doubt to deal with.
On top of that they are many times also dealing with family/friend fall out from their decision to accept Jesus. Divorce, children shunning them, loss of their friends, wide spread gossip about what “sin” they committed that caused them to leave.
I am, by nature, a bit of a clown and find that if they can begin to laugh at the LDS doctrines they have abandoned that it helps with the healing.
In all seriousness, I have a very real burden for those still in the LDS. I spend a great deal of time in prayer for them every single day.
I have felt that burden of having to obtain “perfection” in this life, of an endless list of works to make me “worthy”, the feeling no matter what you do it isn’t enough, of having to rely on a male “priesthood holder” for forgiveness and essentially salvation (LDS use the term exaltation).
As much flack as I get for ‘bashing’ mormons here on FR, my calling and goal is to help them see that there is freedom from those feelings through Christ Jesus.
It was taught as a real need for mormon women to enter the mormon afterlife
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It still is, the “new name” part hasn’t changed. It is still essential to be resurrected. And SOME earthly man will still call the woman from the grave. God resurrects only the men, the men resurrect the women.
How is this much different than the fLDS FOLKS?
How is this much different than the fLDS FOLKS?
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It isn’t. The FLDS are the ones following TRUE mormonism, the SLC church is in a state of apostasy.
Meanwhile over here on the thread about Joey Smith’s “white horse prophecy”
I just dont know your problem
I don’t have one. But thanks for asking anyway.
Did ask ? Now I’m ASKING.
to BM: OK, ask away BM...there was only one question and then a statement.
ALL: Does anyone else get what he is talking about?
Um...
No...
But really, is that a surprise?
ping me that thread again, please.
This one...
I realized that the atheist/LDS duo were wasting everyone’s time over on that “truth” thread...
Yeah ...
something about...
“I know what was untrue about Presbyterianism...
and I’m ready to tell...
for a price...
You must pay club fees of 10% of your lifetime income...”
Also unsure as to why when I go to the site and try to watch a video my anti-spyware and anti-virus software pops up with a warning.
Yes.
From the article: The White Horse Prophecy was allegedly given by LDS church founder Joseph Smith. According to accounts, Smith states that "the U.S. Constitution will hang by a thread" and that the elders of the LDS church will step up and save it" ..."In order to motivate my fellow elders in the LDS church, I have invited many to attend meetings to discuss Joseph's prophecy and how we can help save the Constitution. Some people, LDS and non-LDS, think it is inappropriate for me to hold such meetings. I think that is ridiculous."
Why isn't there more of a national discussion that Mormons want to be our political saviors? I would think this would be a prime-time focus.
So, gubernatorial wanna-bes like Rammell is not only thinking Smith's "prophesy" is to be fulfilled by the likes of him, but Lds "prophet" John Taylor's is, too:
“The Almighty has established this kingdom with order and laws and every thing pertaining thereto… [so] that when the nations shall be convulsed, we may stand forth as saviours…and finally redeem a ruined world, not only in a religious but in a political point of view.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 9, p. 342, April 13, 1862)
LDS apostle Orson Hyde: “What the world calls ‘Mormonism’ will rule every nation...God has decreed it, and his own right arm will accomplish it. This will make the heathen rage.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 53)
From the article: As such, it would only be appropriate for me to address Joseph Smith's prophecy with people who believe he was a prophet."
Well, if Mr. Rammell isn't willing to have convos with those who consider Mr. Smith to have been a false prophet, and therefore this is a false prophecy, then that could present a problem when no Lds elders step forward to "save" the constitution, couldn't it?
From the article, citing the LDS church "re-officialized" position: "The so-called 'White Horse Prophecy' is based on accounts that have not been substantiated by historical research and is not embraced as Church doctrine."
(I say "re-officialized" 'cause of Reaganaut's list of previous "official" statements by the Mormon church...isn't it nice where you can just trump and re-trump one "official" statement with yet another "official statement" -- and somehow all of the previous "official" statements are supposed to retire from the internet world?)
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