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On health care, the bishops have lost their way (*BARF ALERT*)
Politico ^ | 12/8/2009 | Kathleen Kennedy Townsend

Posted on 12/08/2009 5:49:51 AM PST by markomalley

The Roman Catholic bishops need more time. That is the recent word from Sen. Ben Nelson — news reports noted that before he introduces his amendment to restrict women’s access to coverage under health care reform, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops needs more time to review it.

Why is it that the bishops are more concerned with restricting millions of American women from making health care decisions that are best for them and their families than they are with ensuring that millions of Americans — women, men, children, immigrants, the poor, the middle class — get much-needed health insurance?

As a Catholic, I dare say it’s because the Conference of Catholic Bishops has lost its way. For example, in Missouri, the Catholic Conference issued an e-mail alert urging “those who are opposed to health care reform but are also pro-life” to “stay focused on the abortion issue and get the Stupak-like amendment adopted in the Senate.”

Really? As Catholics, are we so laser focused on the issue of abortion that we are willing to join tea partiers and the like to bring down the health care reform bill? And at the enormous expense of millions of Americans who suffer every day because they can’t afford to get checkups, because they must choose bankruptcy in order to save the life of their loved one?

Not this Catholic. As someone who was raised by a family absolutely committed to public service and to making sure that our nation provides health care to the least among us, I am devastated that the bishops are using their influence to try not to increase access to health care for the millions of people who don’t have insurance. Where is their passion for the families who need health care?

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionenthusiast; abortions; kkt; nelson; obamacare; prolife
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Seeing articles like this while recognizing that this witch represents likely 30-40% of the total Catholics in this country makes me wonder if I don't agree with the premise in the title of the article. Not in the way that KKT would have me believe, but I wonder if the bishops haven't lost their way...maybe about 50 or so years ago.

Their tolerance for heterodox theologians, religious, clergy, and catechists planted the seeds for what we are seeing now. And so I would say, yes, the bishops likely lost their way two or three generations ago.

Thanks be to God that a few of them are getting back on track and examining the whole Gospel, not just the libtard interpretations of that Gospel. We need to keep them in our prayers. We also need to keep the rest of the bishops in our prayers, as well...

1 posted on 12/08/2009 5:49:51 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I am sick of hearing this in church every week. Our priest goes so far as to tell us that health care is a basic human right. If it weren’t for the abortion and end of life care issues, the church would be 100% behind this. What happened to the Catholic Church that was against socialism? JP II helped Thatcher and Reagan bring down European communism. Now, the church is running toward it. It disgusts me to no end.


2 posted on 12/08/2009 5:56:05 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

Simple, abortion is not healthcare. Our priest told me that the Bishops would close the hospitals rather than submit to FOCA.


3 posted on 12/08/2009 5:58:09 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

I don’t know if all would be shut down. Church ethicists decided that Catholics could donate to Komen for the Cure even though Komen donates to Planned Parenthood. The ethicists defended this decision by claiming that the money only goes to breast cancer services and not abortions. The claimed that it was more important for women of low income areas to receive these services. However, even if the money is going only to bc services, that alleviates other money to go towards abortion services. Will the hospitals be shut down, or will the Church’s social thoughts on health care prevail? Will some hospitals remain open because it is more important for the poor or illegal immigrants to get healthcare? Before obama spoke at Notre Dame I would have said the hospitals will be shut down. Now, I don’t think so.


4 posted on 12/08/2009 6:07:51 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: markomalley

I am not the most enthusiastic anti-abortion proponent BUT it is arrogant that they demand we be forced to pay for abortions, as well as free mammograms, and birth related costs while calling it ‘insurance’.

Very glad pro-lifers are fighting this battle, one we can all agree on.


5 posted on 12/08/2009 6:10:07 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: markomalley; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
As Catholics, are we so laser focused on the issue of abortion that we are willing to join tea partiers and the like to bring down the health care reform bill?
Ugh.
6 posted on 12/08/2009 6:11:50 AM PST by narses ('in an odd way this is cheering news!'.)
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To: massgopguy

People have to get their heads out of their butts in regard to what the rest of the bill (beyond abortion) will do to them, i.e. crush them economically and be just one more step to totalitarian rule. Get real people, these cretins want to rule us under the guise of “caring” for us.


7 posted on 12/08/2009 6:11:50 AM PST by dumpthelibs (dumpthelibs)
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To: markomalley

Another Baby-Killing Kennedy speaks out.

Up Her’s.

I just thank God we didnt elect her to be Governor here in Maryland.

I have a problem witht he Church’s amnesty stance and their stance on Health care, but they are right on the baby-killing. Murder is wrong and Kathleen Kennedy Townsend is guilty as an accessory as are the rest of the Kennedy bootlegging klan.


8 posted on 12/08/2009 6:13:39 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

The Church’s stance on amnesty is where I started having issues. Now the whole healthcare thing is driving me mad. I am thinking about composing a letter to my bishop, who also did not sign the obama Notre Dame petition.


9 posted on 12/08/2009 6:17:28 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: narses

How can kathleen Kennedy Townsend even call herself a Catholic?


10 posted on 12/08/2009 6:26:36 AM PST by goldi (')
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To: markomalley
I always welcome any material from an intellect of Kathleen Kennedy Townsend's stature. Alas, this piece does not rise to the level of her epic interview at half-time of the Baltimore Ravens Super Bowl appearance several years ago (and during her run to become Maryland's governor), during which she observed how exciting the game had been: "First they scored a football and then we scored a football."

As William F. Buckley used to say, "Leaping lizards . . ."

11 posted on 12/08/2009 6:31:24 AM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: narses

I don’t understand this post. Is it sarcasm, or are you suggesting we shouldn’t be “laser-focused on abortion? How could we not be?


12 posted on 12/08/2009 6:45:00 AM PST by malkee (Actually I'm an ex-smoker--more than three years now -- But I think about it every day.)
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To: narses
"As Catholics, are we so laser focused on the issue of abortion that we are willing to join tea partiers and the like to bring down the health care reform bill? "

YES!

13 posted on 12/08/2009 7:22:51 AM PST by Reo
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To: markomalley

On health care, the bishops have lost their way
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As far as God is concerned they havent...


14 posted on 12/08/2009 8:45:53 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: markomalley
I don't think the Bishops have lost their way. Too many have spoken out against this healthcare/obamacare!

Bishops Urge Senators to Support [Abortion]Amendment on Health Care; Urge Constituents to Back It
Bishops urged to be tough on pols who would pay for abortion
Health reform still full of thorny problems for Catholics (Vasa comes out for subsidiarity)

Healthcare and Catholics: True and False Arguments

Meddling Bishops Interfere in Political Process

How the Stupak-Pitts Amendment May Change Our Politics
Health Care and the Power of the Bishops' Conference
US Bishops: Abortion Isn't Health Care
Denver Archbishop Chaput says promises were broken on abortion
Catholic Bishops: Health Care Bill ... ‘Money-Laundering System’ for Funding Abortion

Catholic Caucus: The Bishops Go On Offense
US bishops conference mounts late drive against 'unacceptable' health-care reform
Catholic Bishops Urge Members to Oppose Abortion Funding in Health Care Plan [Catholic Uprising!]
Bishops Announce Unprecedented Massive Catholic Opposition to Obamacare
Bishops Call for Massive Catholic Opposition to Abortion in Current Health Care Reform

Archbishop Charles Chaput on the Current Struggle Between Catholics and "Caesar"
The Bishop's Ax Falls on Obama. And on the Vatican Curia (bombshell article)
US Bishops: Heath Package Still Funding Abortions (Urge Congress to Keep Working)
Catholic Bishops Declare They Will ‘Vigorously’ Oppose Health Care Bill as It Now Stands
Bishops Restate Vow vs. Obamacare's Abortion

Important: US Bishops taking the gloves off on health care reform
BREAKING: Catholic Bishops On Health Care - Change Bills Or Else
U.S. bishops warn of vigorous opposition if Congress fails to fix health care bills
List: *41* Bishops against Obamacare (and counting!)
Bishop Murphy Issues Video Statement on Health Care Reform [Diocese of Rockville Centre]

Health Care Principles [Bishop Samuel Aquila, Fargo, ND]
Florida Bishop [Thomas Wenski] Weighs in on Health Care Reform
ObamaCare and Catholic social teaching [Bishop Neckless]
Some Catholic bishops question gov't health care
Boston’s Roman Catholic Cardinal Says He Confronted Obama about Abortion in Health Care Plan....

Iowa Bishop: Don’t Be Railroaded into the Current...Health Care Proposals
in a message issued by the Diocese of Sioux City (The Church on Universal Healthcare)
Nazi Health Care A Catholic Bishop Speaks Out Against "End of Life Care" (Germany, 1941)
Bishop Nickless: "No Health Care Reform is Better than the Wrong Health Care Reform"
Cardinal Rigali, Abp. Chaput Intensify Warnings Against Obamacare's Abortion Expansion

15 posted on 12/08/2009 9:20:43 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: goldi

She can’t. By her stance on abortion she has excommunicated herself.

She is only a CINO.


16 posted on 12/08/2009 9:29:22 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley; nickcarraway; Lady In Blue; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; Catholicguy; RobbyS; ...
FReep your Senators! Call, fax, email -- the whole works!

U. S. Senate

17 posted on 12/08/2009 9:31:55 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: goodwithagun
health care is a basic human right

How can somebody else's labor or property be my right? Too many people do not know how to think.

18 posted on 12/08/2009 9:38:16 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: markomalley

Be pushing my Priest and Deacon to speak out and sending them examples such as this:

Another example of how to speak up against Socialism/Marxism by the Pope just as Pope John Paul did several years ago and with the help of Reagan and Margaret Thatcher took down the wall. Speak up, Speak Loudly, Speak Confidently.

Was it not God whom told the Israelite’s they did not want a king? Yet they insisted for a King and suffered God’s warnings of Tax’s, Enslavement, and loss of land. One lesson they were suppose to learn? Man should not put man ahead of God.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=17965


19 posted on 12/08/2009 9:54:10 AM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution.)
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To: dumpthelibs

Absolutely correct, There are so many other evil things in this bill and so many are just looking at a small portion... Biggest example is Force to comply and that is just a starting point.


20 posted on 12/08/2009 9:56:55 AM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution.)
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