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Judge Romney By His Religion? I Do It, and So Should You.
Race 4 2012 ^ | November 30, 2009 | Alex Knepper

Posted on 11/30/2009 6:01:03 PM PST by delacoert

I’ll just leave this here…

Before a defense of any kind of religious discrimination, one ought to make all of the necessary disclaimers: of course I oppose government-sponsored discrimination, and I certainly would not support the kind of absurd treatment described by Steven Reinhart in his piece featured below. That being said, there is a legitimate case to be made for judging any candidate for office by his religious convictions.

In late 2007, Mitt Romney made his somewhat-famous speech on religion, where he spoke the following words:

“Freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom. Freedom opens the windows of the soul so that man can discover his most profound beliefs and commune with God. Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone.”

Similarly, Romney has stated: “I believe in my Mormon faith and I endeavor to live by it…my faith is the faith of my fathers. I will be true to them and to my beliefs.”

If freedom requires religion, if his Mormon faith sustains his life and he will be true to those practices, then I’m at an utter loss as to why we should ignore Romney’s religious beliefs when evaluating his fitness for the White House.

We ask plenty of questions of any Evangelical Christian candidate: what do his beliefs about the nature of God, the nature of the cosmos, and the meaning of man’s life mean for his potential tenure in office? But for whatever reason, these questions are looked at as unnecessarily piercing and prejudiced when asked of a member of a minority faith.

When Sarah Palin gave her fumbling answer about Israel’s settlements, several commentators jumped on her faith, wondering whether she subscribed to the bizarre but potent sect of modern Christianity that believes in the imminence of the End Times. Will anyone ask Mitt Romney about the oddities of the dogma of the Mormon Church? There are plenty of Mormon doctrines that may strike people as a bit odd — and rightly so. It is established in the church that the devout can reach the upper echelons of heaven and eventually become gods themselves, able to create their own universes and govern them as they see fit (all while supervised by the One True God). Why is it that when I bring this up to Romney fans, I am dismissed as a bigot?

As an atheist, I both understand and accept that in a predominantly Christian society, my thoughts on religion are necessarily going to open me up to questions. If I were to ever run for office (don’t count on that, by the way), I would not expect my supporters would try to ward off any questions about my atheism with the victim-card of discrimination. One’s philosophy of religion contributes profoundly to his worldview and thus is a completely valid criterion by which to partially evaluate a candidate’s fitness for office.

I view all religions as equally bizarre and irrational. But mainstream Christianity is often adopted as a cultural guise, meant for purposes of assimilation with the majority. Probe most self-described Christians and you’ll find plenty of deviation from standard dogma. Devotion to Mormonism, which is completely outside of the American mainstream, requires a certain level of commitment. To what extent will Romney’s faith influence his decision-making? I ask that question of devoted Evangelicals and judge them accordingly, and I will do the same of a Mormon. And I am not going to apologize for that.


TOPICS: Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: braindeadbigots; excusesexcuses; hidebehindreligion; mitthides; mittwhit; mittwhits; mittwits; mormon; mormonism; rino; rinos; romney; romneyhiding; unusualtopic
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To: restornu; Tennessee Nana

There is no such thing as a Christian Bible it is the Holy Bible which contains the words of Jehovah and Jesus Christ.

- - - - - - -
Are you saying Jehovah and Jesus are SEPARATE BEINGS?!?!

That isn’t what the Temple teaches us.


561 posted on 12/02/2009 10:37:29 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: restornu

Hi Honey!

I thought I was put on Virtual Ignore Status?


562 posted on 12/02/2009 11:11:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

placemarker


563 posted on 12/02/2009 11:17:11 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Ripliancum

http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=7d2aa41f6cc20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&vgnextoid=637e1b08f338c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD


564 posted on 12/02/2009 11:20:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ripliancum
Do you think it a double standard to support Glenn Beck but not Mormon politicians?

I don't.
Glenn Beck can't tax me or put me in jail.

565 posted on 12/02/2009 11:22:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ejonesie22
You read too mush into things and don't read others.

You are confusing him and Resty...

Oh!

Wait!!

She just TYPES mush!

566 posted on 12/02/2009 11:24:15 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Placemarker!


567 posted on 12/02/2009 11:26:37 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: restornu
mobocracy doing their work!

Self-proclaimed EX-PRESBYTERIAN failing to do HER work of warning present day PRESBYTERIANs of the UNTRUENESS of what they believe.

SHAME on RESTORNU!!

Eze 3:18
When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

568 posted on 12/02/2009 11:28:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Spiff
The LDS Church does not support gay marriage. Just the FREEDOM to live together unmolested.
569 posted on 12/02/2009 11:29:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
bi polar did you take your meds!:)

You sure are having trouble getting someone riled with your insults.

Time to ratchet it up a bit...

570 posted on 12/02/2009 11:30:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut

He had more ribs...


571 posted on 12/02/2009 11:31:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ejonesie22

Where’s his 9 iron?


572 posted on 12/02/2009 11:32:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

The victory of gay marriage would be a boon to the LDS. It would pave the way to the legalization of polygamy so they can return to that “eternal principle”.

I have heard both gays and faithful LDS say that polygamy is the next battle. I also know several LDS men who are hoping polygamy is legalized soon. No Joke.

I was once asked to be a polygamous wife. The guy was mainstream LDS (and a stake president) and was trying to convince his wife to “practice the principle”.


573 posted on 12/02/2009 11:33:41 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Tennessee Nana
hate for you to be short...

Looks like you were too late!

574 posted on 12/02/2009 11:34:01 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
You have a funny way of showing it!

Mark 1:25
And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.

575 posted on 12/02/2009 11:39:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Marriage is an ordinance of God

So is MULTIPLE marriage, but you MORMONs (for the most part) are AFRAID of GOVERNMENT; so you spit in GOD's face and call HIS Eternal Covenant so much trash!

576 posted on 12/02/2009 11:41:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla

SOME might say you spelled farce wrong.


577 posted on 12/02/2009 11:42:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

Ok...

WHO was bad in #546?


578 posted on 12/02/2009 11:43:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
The Lord Children have a covenants but the world does not want one.

"Let the little children come unto me..."
The BIBLE Jesus


"And I'll fix them up with a covenant or two."
The MORMON jesus.

579 posted on 12/02/2009 11:46:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; Colofornian; restornu

Looks like it was Resty herself...

to: restornu

Many do not appreciate the divine plan of the Lord there is a place for everyone on this planet.

The Lord Children have a covenants but the world does not want one.

Those who love the Lord learn of his Plan of Salvation and striving to keep His commandments!

Many in the world has no desire to learn nor have a covenant with the Lord.

549 posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:38:23 AM by restornu (Learn of Him!)
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580 posted on 12/02/2009 11:47:59 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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