Posted on 10/25/2009 5:37:25 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
I think that to completely dismiss the "alien" abductions and UFO sightings is just not very intelligent. The truth is that SOME
THING is doing these things. People have their unborne babies taken with no trace. People awake with peices of symetrical metal under their skin with no visible mark. People have thousands of hours of UFO videos, of which SOME are quite legitimate. There have been millions who have said they've been abducted. I highly doubt that every single one is lying. Even if just 5 people are telling the truth then there IS somthing "out there".
As a Christian I find no evidence in the Bible that God created any other forms of life not on Earth. But then how do you explain the alien phenomenom?
What is it that's abducting people, performing surgical tests, doing genetic testing, etc..? You could say that the gov't has bred hybrid human life forms that do this, but that seems unlikely. Maybe though, Im not throwing that theory away altogether.
I strongly beleive that the Bible is full of explanations as to what these "aliens" really are. The word alien simply means not of this planet. Therefor God is an alien. And so is another creation of his. The only thing he created besides us humans. Angels. Way back in time Lucifer tried to attain God's level of power. He was cast out of heavan along with 1/3 of all the angels(the ones who followed Lucifer). Him and his followers were cast into what the Bible calls the "Third Heavan". The third heavan is simply the universe. Space, the sky around the earth, etc.../
Contrary to most people's beleif, Satan was NOT cast into hell. He was cast into the 3rd heavan. He was also given the title, "Prince of the Power of the Air". The bible says that he and his fallen angels inhabit the 3rd heavan, or our universe.
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2 Thes 2:9-Even him (refering to AntiChrist), whose coming is after the working of Satan withall power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, thatthey might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie...
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Along with this passage it is said that one of the AntiChrists first miracles to attempt to persuade the people of his power will be to call fire from the sky. This could be taken several ways since Revelation is highly symbolic, but it COULD represent the AntiChrist(who IS satan) calling HIS fallen angels(the aliens) out and into the open. Imagine if Hitler at the height of his power had called down a fleet of millions of aliens complete with UFOs. What if he claimed to have direct relations with them and said that together with these aliens the human race would go into the future. More than likely MANY people, even non-Nazis, would follow Hitler like a god. This I beleive is just what the AC will do.
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We wrestle not with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers, with wicked spirits in high places, literally, "in the heavens" "in the aerial regions" Eph.6:12
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Luke 21...and there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth will be anxiety of nations with bewilderment, of sound, of sea and of surf, men fainting at heart from fear and expecting of the things which are coming on the earth. For the powers, the dominions of the heavens will be shaken.
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Also notice the description of a huge army led by Satan in Revelation 9. It says that this army were like locusts with the face of men. Imagine for a second what a locust head with a humanoid face on it would look like...
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"God promised that a descendant of Eve's would crush satan(a foreshadow of Jesus). Now if you were Satan, and you wanted to prevent this, what would you do?
Hmmm...
Pollute the bloodline, perhaps?
"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days - and also afterward - when the sons of God(those God had created, the fallen angels here) went to the daughters of men and had children by them'So the Lord said, I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth ... for I am grieved that I have made them.' But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord." Genesis 6:4-8
"Noah was the only one who had not been affected by the apparent sexual and genetic experiments carried out by these fallen angels. ALSO, in the New Testament it says that "AS in the days of NOAH, so to shall the coming of the son of man(Jesus' 2nd Coming) be."
Excerpted from "Come Sail Away" by Guy Malone http://www.AlienResistance.org Roswell NM
The scripture above tells a part of what it was like in the days of Noah. Notice too that the whole alien abduction frenzy didn't start until the late 1940's, when Israel became a nation. Israel becoming a nation is the single most significant prophecy that has been fuflfilled. For thousands of years there was no Israel. Then in the late 40's Israel became a nation.
ALSO: PER CAPITA the country with the most abduction accounts is Israel. The US has the most, but per capita its Israel. That is significant.
99.9% of people in the world beleive that these "things" are aliens from another planet, that is IF they even beleive in them. A VERY few think that they are actually the fallen angels of the Bible. The AntiChrist would have an easy time convincing people of his authority if he were to call down fleets of UFO's from the sky.
The fact that most people beleive they are aliens and not fallen angels would present the AntiChrist with an incredible oppourtunity to deceive.
Given the evidence above, I would like to know what you all think now. And really consider it...
-Sean Cannon
Here's something written by Jim Gregg in response to this article-
Indeed, the fallen angels are quite busy trying to undermine God's creation. Originally, all angels were created by God to carry out the specifics of terra-forming all those planets that were and will be inhabited in the future. Angels are not married, nor are they given in marriage. So, angels are created without all the aggressions we have (They don't need all those troublesome hormones we have). We were created a little lower than the angels, it says. They all have their specific areas of purpose. some will handle the garden while others will attend to the development and placement of humankind on inhabitable planets. But, all those angels (who remained with God) continue happily to obey God. Satan is the author of the flying saucer. They must sit back and laugh at the mysticism that humans stir up among themselves. There is, without a doubt, life like we humans abounding in the universe. Scientists would be surprised at the commonality of life.....But they would be mostly amazed at the quantity of it. The fact that other planets are inhabited does not disprove God...It proves it all the more. God continues this very minute to create new planets, to harvest those that are ready to be harvested....and most amazingly to me provides the way to salvage all his creation back to himself. It's true about Jesus. He and He alone is the key to our salvation. It's the same every where in the universe. But be careful to put things into perspective....God calls us sheep. We have our puspose in creation also. We can understand all mysteries and have knowledge of all that is contained in creation and know the purpose of it all....But without love the Bible says that we are like a clanging symbol. Our ultimate purpose is to obey God....and that's the undebateable, indisputeable truth.>/P>
Thanks, Jim Gregg.
Scientologists seem to be doing rather well, too.
They are idiotic fools, but hey.. dollars make them right, huh?
Look at Benny Hinn. He just bought a new jet but he is a massive charlatan.
If it did happen I would put my faith and trust in Jesus Christ.
You seem to be saying that you would put your faith and trust in the fact that it will not happen.
You seem to be reading into my statement things that are not there. That puts the label of "fiction" on your conclusion.
However, let me be clear. I am certain that it will not happen with ANY pope.
You sent me TWO private FreepMails.
Satan seems to be able to work quite effectively through mere humans to acheive his goals.
I assume you've seen the Spirit coming or going or perhaps writing on the wall? How do you know this to be true?
If you'd talked to Jim Jones's followers or even Davis Koresh's people, you would have found the same sort of praise. Oh, and their churches grew nicely.
No, it goes, "Faith without works is dead".
There is lots of communication going on here. There is no "convincing" going on between the parties. Perhaps you mistake "communication" as acceptance of your viewpoint.
I don't require acceptance of viewpoints in order to consider this "communication".
Here is a proposal for you. Get on the telephone and engage the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod theologians in a conversation on this very topic. If they agree with you and agree to change Lutheran dogma, I'll go along. They are located in Saint Louis, Missouri. They are very cordial folks, and would be happy to talk with you. There is also a nice web site where you can download some material and purchase others. The LCMS is a well documented organization; and, great pains have been taken to explain the dogma. Let me know how well you fare.
HEAR HEAR
Wow ...
According to Quix.
I’m not sure if you’ve seen this post by Quix regarding his theory.
HERE IS QUIXS THEORY:
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THIS IS MY DISTILLATION OF 10S OF THOUSANDS OF PUZZLE PIECES. I dont per se, myself, accept this as proven fact . . . just the most likely summary given all Ive studied.
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So the Ruling Elite are DEALING with 9-12 Fallen Angel Races, how do they deal with 9-12 different races? How do they communicate?
QX: Some are as human looking as you or I and communicate similarly though also reportedly much telepathically. One of the militarys greatest fears is that such critters have already taken on positions of power in the human structures/orgs/governments.
Theres also purportedly a power to clone folks and download personality, memories etc. of the person cloned though with the clone still quite controlled by the . . . controllers . . . slipping that person back into the role of the cloned person. Who knows.
Have all these races learned languages of the Earth?
QX: The more human types have purporetdly learned unreal numbers of earth languages. Though functionally, they dont have to learn that many to deal with the power brokers. And, given super advanced learning technologies and brain/knowledge downloads, learning a language is purportedly not the challenge for them it is for us.
Theres also reports of the governmnet KNOWING theres coming a time when therell be NO electronic communications and ALL military communications will be by ET facilitated telepathy [i.e. spirit world communications, imho]
Military personnel with certain DNA facilitating such communications are sought out and trained in super secret projects with very complex computer programs. Interestingly, the traffic they were trained to transmit sounded more or less exactly like the Secret and TS radio communications I dealt with as a Radioman in the Navy.
Are they posing as human?
QX: Evidently many do. Scares the _______ out of military and government leaders . . . Theres reportedly a kind of gate to go through like screening for metal at the airport to get to deeper parts of the Pentegon . . . only its scanning brains for any non human patterns to keep them out of those sections.
Or do they retain their Alien Appearance and deal with the Globalists in ET form in private?
QX: Hard to say. That bunch of puzzle pieces gets really wierd fast. . . . everything from OThuga offering a daughter . . . to every elite having to bugger toddler boys for initiation rites to Dracos and other such reptilian species being invovled in such goings on.
Im not eager to read a lot of that so I dont. Im just kind of peripherally aware that heres a bunch of data there that I dont know what to do with and had rather not do anything with it.
The War under Dulce near Los Alamos purportedly involved Dracos . . . with vats down deep . . . a slurry . . . for food . . . with human body parts . . .
So there are 9-12 Fallen Angel Races that the Ruling Elite have to deal with.
QX: That is the most consistent ball park figure Ive seen for over 30 years from probably more than 2 dozen different sources.
The 9-12 Fallen Angel Races who the Ruling Elite have to deal with also play Good Cop/Bad Cop with the Ruling Elite, so we dont know whether they are Good Angels or Bad Angels? Could they all be Bad Angels or Good Angels? Or is it a mixture?
QUIX: NO. I HAVE NO DOUBT.
THEY ARE ALL BAD. GODS ANGEL ARMIES DONT BEGIN TO BEHAVE AS THESE CRITTERS DO. THEY ARE ALL WORKING TO SET UP SATANS GLOBAL GOVERNMENT.
= BAD, BAD, BAD.
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Quix just can't seem to accept the possibility that all of this can be going on even with the ETs being mere mortals. He never responds when I point out that people have the same bad traits as exhibited by the ETs. Russia had advisors in Cuba teaching them subversive tricks and arming them against the US, but still weren't supernatural. Our own guys went along with the festivities at Abu Griab without being supernatural. Why would an ET race be devoid of their equivalent of Hitler, Edi Amain, or Stalin? Nobody ever claimed that ET races would be pure as the wind-blown snow.
Hence the move to the NWO. Is all that a bad thing? Not necessarily, but I think we should all be privy to the process and making the rules.
When you eliminate the impossible, the remaining alternative, no matter how improbable, is most likely the truth.
And that would be?
No.
I’m NOT talking about agreement.
I’m talking about word meanings being congruently transmitted and more or less received as transmitted and responded to with more or less conventional dictionary meanings to the same or similar words.
It seems like when one sends a message out to you . . . about half of it is
1. not received by you
or
2. so mangled and distorted in your reply that even if it was received accurately, major chunks of the reply have nothing to do with the original message sent.
I’ve jousted with the best of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. I warned the Chairman of the Missions committee he’d better get his act straightened up with The Lord and with his mission team or God would . . . [deal with him strongly] within 40 DAYS, God had done exactly that. I assure you, the rest of the committee paid much better attention after that.
You will either choose to communicate sensibly and meaningfully, redemptively, constructively [NOT talking about agreement at all] . . . or you won’t. I won’t hold my breath.
And that would be?
For starters, coherent mass psychosis, and swamp gas.
True enough, but what is your point? That is to be expected, even if only from a statistical prospective. I think the focus on aliens is a set up for end times deceptions, but I have no problem w/ brothers and sisters in Christ who disagree. The idea that aliens may exist is not against scripture that I am aware of.
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