Posted on 10/25/2009 5:37:25 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
I think that to completely dismiss the "alien" abductions and UFO sightings is just not very intelligent. The truth is that SOME
THING is doing these things. People have their unborne babies taken with no trace. People awake with peices of symetrical metal under their skin with no visible mark. People have thousands of hours of UFO videos, of which SOME are quite legitimate. There have been millions who have said they've been abducted. I highly doubt that every single one is lying. Even if just 5 people are telling the truth then there IS somthing "out there".
As a Christian I find no evidence in the Bible that God created any other forms of life not on Earth. But then how do you explain the alien phenomenom?
What is it that's abducting people, performing surgical tests, doing genetic testing, etc..? You could say that the gov't has bred hybrid human life forms that do this, but that seems unlikely. Maybe though, Im not throwing that theory away altogether.
I strongly beleive that the Bible is full of explanations as to what these "aliens" really are. The word alien simply means not of this planet. Therefor God is an alien. And so is another creation of his. The only thing he created besides us humans. Angels. Way back in time Lucifer tried to attain God's level of power. He was cast out of heavan along with 1/3 of all the angels(the ones who followed Lucifer). Him and his followers were cast into what the Bible calls the "Third Heavan". The third heavan is simply the universe. Space, the sky around the earth, etc.../
Contrary to most people's beleif, Satan was NOT cast into hell. He was cast into the 3rd heavan. He was also given the title, "Prince of the Power of the Air". The bible says that he and his fallen angels inhabit the 3rd heavan, or our universe.
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2 Thes 2:9-Even him (refering to AntiChrist), whose coming is after the working of Satan withall power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, thatthey might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie...
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Along with this passage it is said that one of the AntiChrists first miracles to attempt to persuade the people of his power will be to call fire from the sky. This could be taken several ways since Revelation is highly symbolic, but it COULD represent the AntiChrist(who IS satan) calling HIS fallen angels(the aliens) out and into the open. Imagine if Hitler at the height of his power had called down a fleet of millions of aliens complete with UFOs. What if he claimed to have direct relations with them and said that together with these aliens the human race would go into the future. More than likely MANY people, even non-Nazis, would follow Hitler like a god. This I beleive is just what the AC will do.
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We wrestle not with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers, with wicked spirits in high places, literally, "in the heavens" "in the aerial regions" Eph.6:12
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Luke 21...and there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth will be anxiety of nations with bewilderment, of sound, of sea and of surf, men fainting at heart from fear and expecting of the things which are coming on the earth. For the powers, the dominions of the heavens will be shaken.
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Also notice the description of a huge army led by Satan in Revelation 9. It says that this army were like locusts with the face of men. Imagine for a second what a locust head with a humanoid face on it would look like...
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"God promised that a descendant of Eve's would crush satan(a foreshadow of Jesus). Now if you were Satan, and you wanted to prevent this, what would you do?
Hmmm...
Pollute the bloodline, perhaps?
"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days - and also afterward - when the sons of God(those God had created, the fallen angels here) went to the daughters of men and had children by them'So the Lord said, I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth ... for I am grieved that I have made them.' But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord." Genesis 6:4-8
"Noah was the only one who had not been affected by the apparent sexual and genetic experiments carried out by these fallen angels. ALSO, in the New Testament it says that "AS in the days of NOAH, so to shall the coming of the son of man(Jesus' 2nd Coming) be."
Excerpted from "Come Sail Away" by Guy Malone http://www.AlienResistance.org Roswell NM
The scripture above tells a part of what it was like in the days of Noah. Notice too that the whole alien abduction frenzy didn't start until the late 1940's, when Israel became a nation. Israel becoming a nation is the single most significant prophecy that has been fuflfilled. For thousands of years there was no Israel. Then in the late 40's Israel became a nation.
ALSO: PER CAPITA the country with the most abduction accounts is Israel. The US has the most, but per capita its Israel. That is significant.
99.9% of people in the world beleive that these "things" are aliens from another planet, that is IF they even beleive in them. A VERY few think that they are actually the fallen angels of the Bible. The AntiChrist would have an easy time convincing people of his authority if he were to call down fleets of UFO's from the sky.
The fact that most people beleive they are aliens and not fallen angels would present the AntiChrist with an incredible oppourtunity to deceive.
Given the evidence above, I would like to know what you all think now. And really consider it...
-Sean Cannon
Here's something written by Jim Gregg in response to this article-
Indeed, the fallen angels are quite busy trying to undermine God's creation. Originally, all angels were created by God to carry out the specifics of terra-forming all those planets that were and will be inhabited in the future. Angels are not married, nor are they given in marriage. So, angels are created without all the aggressions we have (They don't need all those troublesome hormones we have). We were created a little lower than the angels, it says. They all have their specific areas of purpose. some will handle the garden while others will attend to the development and placement of humankind on inhabitable planets. But, all those angels (who remained with God) continue happily to obey God. Satan is the author of the flying saucer. They must sit back and laugh at the mysticism that humans stir up among themselves. There is, without a doubt, life like we humans abounding in the universe. Scientists would be surprised at the commonality of life.....But they would be mostly amazed at the quantity of it. The fact that other planets are inhabited does not disprove God...It proves it all the more. God continues this very minute to create new planets, to harvest those that are ready to be harvested....and most amazingly to me provides the way to salvage all his creation back to himself. It's true about Jesus. He and He alone is the key to our salvation. It's the same every where in the universe. But be careful to put things into perspective....God calls us sheep. We have our puspose in creation also. We can understand all mysteries and have knowledge of all that is contained in creation and know the purpose of it all....But without love the Bible says that we are like a clanging symbol. Our ultimate purpose is to obey God....and that's the undebateable, indisputeable truth.>/P>
Thanks, Jim Gregg.
Too bad God didn't consult with you before sending poor misguided John the Revelator to Patmos to receive those silly visions, eh. If He had asked for your opinion, he could have save the time spent writing so much of the Bible.
Just a small suggestion, but your self-righteousness seems out of place with the softness and tenderness of heart I have come to know with most folks who are filled the Spirit of Jesus. Maybe I am again missing the essential point.
Are you convinced we are in the end times? What if we aren’t?
I think I have a tighter interpretation-of-Scripture habit than most folks on FR’s rel forum.
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I think my LOLLERCOASTER just derailed off it’s track. Thanks for the laugh.
No, not absolutely...but open to the strong possibility that we might be.
OTOH, a personal end times is always just around the corner. I take care of my 90 year old parents and am more keenly aware that usual just how fragile life can be. I've had to call 911 twice in the last few month because I thought one of them was in fatal danger. In both cases, the paramedics were able to save a life.
Obviously, such an event in the middle of the night is more than a little unsettling.
Thanks, I was just curious.
What about you?
I am not displaying self-righteousness. I am displaying the confidence given to me by Christ in regard to my salvation and spiritual safety. I can be but a "sheep before the wolves" in full confidence that I am protected. I have been discharged from the need of knowing the details. Those who must save themselves need to know the details. Your spiritual safety is in the hands of Christ, not your own. The way you are now coming on to me shows that think you play a major part in your own salvation.
Now we are getting to some of the significant differences in denominations. Many think they gain salvation through works. Those who understand know that salvation is by Grace alone, and only through Christ. You are the self-righteous, for you have the keys to the Kingdom. I know I'm not righteous, I am forgiven.
By the way. The meanest people I have known are the ones who professed to be wonderful Christians.
Oh, I know Whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I’ve committed unto Him against that day.
I have no curiosity about aliens. I am a retired nurse, and did my stint in Neuropsych; none of the people obsessed by aliens/demons had anything but personally destructive consequences.
Anything is possible, but I’m suspicious of those with too great an interest in aliens/demons, due to the fact that Christ wants me (I believe) to concentrate on doing His Will for my life every day. None of it involves occult phenomena research, and part of me wants to warn people about that interest...the other part just laughs. Fallible me. ;-D
Coming on to you? Heheh...I don't think so.
I played only one tiny little role in my salvation...I took the Lord's hand when he offered it to me. He did all the rest.
You said...
I have been discharged from the need of knowing the details.Not sure where in Scripture (can you point me to a verse) that comes from, but how can you spread His Word without a thorough heart-felt knowledge of It.
I personally have a hunger for It. He speaks to me through the Bible...for me, it is a living thing that moves within my heart and soul and body (just as does His Spirit) and directs the course of my actions. And of course, He uses it to chastise me when I make mistakes.
As for meanness among those who profess to be Christians...(you knows as well as I do that) just because someone professes to be a Christian doesn't mean that they have asked the Holy Spirit to indwell them and have indeed accepted Him into their hearts. It doesn't mean, as Paul says, they have died so that His Spirit may live in their hearts.
For example, Fr Gabriel Amorth is an exorcist of the Diocese of Rome (I am not a Catholic BTW) and honestly believes he is doing God's work. He believes that people should know what the work of exorcists is all about. I don't know if he is right or wrong, but I am certain willing to ponder what he says.
Are you saying that the Fr Amorth, in his effort to bring the Lord to the possessed (and, as any warrior must, studiously knowing his enemy), is guilty of performing "occult phenomena research".
I am not asking whether or not you approve of the Fr Amorth or the Catholic Church. My point, to reiterate, is this..."who are we to question God's calling of others...that is between them and Him."
When we think we know the Mind of God or how he works in the lives of all He calls, we are most likely wrong.
BTW, while on the subject of demonic possession, I most certainly have observed it, though not in a cases of full possession. I would bet that as a nurse who have seen it also. There is nothing more pitiful than someone whipsawed about by evil forces...very sad.
I am so glad there are some men and women of God who feel called to bring God's liberation from that evil to them.
Anyway, enjoyed chatting with you but I've got to go feed the livestock (cat farming is tough work;-)).
Have a good evening and God bless you!
More evidence that you have not even a microscopic clue about Quix.
Thx.
Well put.
Thx.
My study in prophecy has frequently resulted in ministry that brings folks into a Saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.
Well put.
Your assumptions are flawed.
One can facilitate and enhance the other . . . vs preventing, hindering it.
Following the Scriptural exhortations to
BE PREPARED
WATCH
HAVE LAMPS TRIMMED
LOOK UP OUR REDEMPTION DRAWS CLOSE . . .
NOT REMOTELY BAD THINGS.
NOT doing the above would be . . . rebellion.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
AND BLESS YOU IN ALL YOUR FAITHFUL FILIAL PIETY.
GOD BE WITH YOU AND THEM.
LOL.
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