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Could Aliens Actually be Fallen Angels?
http://home.flash.net/~manniac/fallen.htm ^

Posted on 10/25/2009 5:37:25 AM PDT by Ancient Drive

I think that to completely dismiss the "alien" abductions and UFO sightings is just not very intelligent. The truth is that SOME

THING is doing these things. People have their unborne babies taken with no trace. People awake with peices of symetrical metal under their skin with no visible mark. People have thousands of hours of UFO videos, of which SOME are quite legitimate. There have been millions who have said they've been abducted. I highly doubt that every single one is lying. Even if just 5 people are telling the truth then there IS somthing "out there".

As a Christian I find no evidence in the Bible that God created any other forms of life not on Earth. But then how do you explain the alien phenomenom?

What is it that's abducting people, performing surgical tests, doing genetic testing, etc..? You could say that the gov't has bred hybrid human life forms that do this, but that seems unlikely. Maybe though, Im not throwing that theory away altogether.

I strongly beleive that the Bible is full of explanations as to what these "aliens" really are. The word alien simply means not of this planet. Therefor God is an alien. And so is another creation of his. The only thing he created besides us humans. Angels. Way back in time Lucifer tried to attain God's level of power. He was cast out of heavan along with 1/3 of all the angels(the ones who followed Lucifer). Him and his followers were cast into what the Bible calls the "Third Heavan". The third heavan is simply the universe. Space, the sky around the earth, etc.../

Contrary to most people's beleif, Satan was NOT cast into hell. He was cast into the 3rd heavan. He was also given the title, "Prince of the Power of the Air". The bible says that he and his fallen angels inhabit the 3rd heavan, or our universe.

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2 Thes 2:9-Even him (refering to AntiChrist), whose coming is after the working of Satan withall power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, thatthey might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie...

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Along with this passage it is said that one of the AntiChrists first miracles to attempt to persuade the people of his power will be to call fire from the sky. This could be taken several ways since Revelation is highly symbolic, but it COULD represent the AntiChrist(who IS satan) calling HIS fallen angels(the aliens) out and into the open. Imagine if Hitler at the height of his power had called down a fleet of millions of aliens complete with UFOs. What if he claimed to have direct relations with them and said that together with these aliens the human race would go into the future. More than likely MANY people, even non-Nazis, would follow Hitler like a god. This I beleive is just what the AC will do.

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We wrestle not with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers, with wicked spirits in high places, literally, "in the heavens" "in the aerial regions" Eph.6:12

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Luke 21...and there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth will be anxiety of nations with bewilderment, of sound, of sea and of surf, men fainting at heart from fear and expecting of the things which are coming on the earth. For the powers, the dominions of the heavens will be shaken.

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Also notice the description of a huge army led by Satan in Revelation 9. It says that this army were like locusts with the face of men. Imagine for a second what a locust head with a humanoid face on it would look like...

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"God promised that a descendant of Eve's would crush satan(a foreshadow of Jesus). Now if you were Satan, and you wanted to prevent this, what would you do?

Hmmm...

Pollute the bloodline, perhaps?

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days - and also afterward - when the sons of God(those God had created, the fallen angels here) went to the daughters of men and had children by them'So the Lord said, I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth ... for I am grieved that I have made them.' But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord." Genesis 6:4-8

"Noah was the only one who had not been affected by the apparent sexual and genetic experiments carried out by these fallen angels. ALSO, in the New Testament it says that "AS in the days of NOAH, so to shall the coming of the son of man(Jesus' 2nd Coming) be."

Excerpted from "Come Sail Away" by Guy Malone http://www.AlienResistance.org Roswell NM

The scripture above tells a part of what it was like in the days of Noah. Notice too that the whole alien abduction frenzy didn't start until the late 1940's, when Israel became a nation. Israel becoming a nation is the single most significant prophecy that has been fuflfilled. For thousands of years there was no Israel. Then in the late 40's Israel became a nation.

ALSO: PER CAPITA the country with the most abduction accounts is Israel. The US has the most, but per capita its Israel. That is significant.

99.9% of people in the world beleive that these "things" are aliens from another planet, that is IF they even beleive in them. A VERY few think that they are actually the fallen angels of the Bible. The AntiChrist would have an easy time convincing people of his authority if he were to call down fleets of UFO's from the sky.

The fact that most people beleive they are aliens and not fallen angels would present the AntiChrist with an incredible oppourtunity to deceive.

Given the evidence above, I would like to know what you all think now. And really consider it...

-Sean Cannon

Here's something written by Jim Gregg in response to this article-

Indeed, the fallen angels are quite busy trying to undermine God's creation. Originally, all angels were created by God to carry out the specifics of terra-forming all those planets that were and will be inhabited in the future. Angels are not married, nor are they given in marriage. So, angels are created without all the aggressions we have (They don't need all those troublesome hormones we have). We were created a little lower than the angels, it says. They all have their specific areas of purpose. some will handle the garden while others will attend to the development and placement of humankind on inhabitable planets. But, all those angels (who remained with God) continue happily to obey God. Satan is the author of the flying saucer. They must sit back and laugh at the mysticism that humans stir up among themselves. There is, without a doubt, life like we humans abounding in the universe. Scientists would be surprised at the commonality of life.....But they would be mostly amazed at the quantity of it. The fact that other planets are inhabited does not disprove God...It proves it all the more. God continues this very minute to create new planets, to harvest those that are ready to be harvested....and most amazingly to me provides the way to salvage all his creation back to himself. It's true about Jesus. He and He alone is the key to our salvation. It's the same every where in the universe. But be careful to put things into perspective....God calls us sheep. We have our puspose in creation also. We can understand all mysteries and have knowledge of all that is contained in creation and know the purpose of it all....But without love the Bible says that we are like a clanging symbol. Our ultimate purpose is to obey God....and that's the undebateable, indisputeable truth.>/P>

Thanks, Jim Gregg.


TOPICS: Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: aliens; angels; antichrist; paralleluniverses; satan; timetravel; wormholes
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To: GingisK

I don’t think I can be helpful when folks refuse to face the evidence.

I don’t see any aspect of the Majesty of God’s Creation disagreeing with the facts I’ve asserted, at all.

The facts are:

1. The critters are working with the ruling oligarchy to set up the

2. Biblically predicted GLOBAL TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT of

3. SATAN.

4. They will likely be used to coerce, scare, manipulate, force the world’s citizens into such a structure and

5. into a single world religion.

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And you’re still determined to call such critters wonderful???

Please explain the logic of that rubbery thinking.


201 posted on 10/26/2009 7:45:20 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: aruanan

Wellllllllllll brilliant Sherlock,

it means that

ALL your rabbit trails of convoluted rationalizations, postulations, explanations, excuses etc. for refusing to face the truth

have 100% been considered before and

100% shredded by the piles of evidence to the contrary.

However, enjoy the rabbit trails. Some are considering sending some high IQ ferrets down a few occasionally to spice things up.


202 posted on 10/26/2009 7:47:49 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GingisK

The study I watched of Genesis 6 made it pretty clear, to me.


203 posted on 10/26/2009 7:50:39 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
However, enjoy the rabbit trails. Some are considering sending some high IQ ferrets down a few occasionally to spice things up.

You're confusing rabbit trails with rabbit holes.

for refusing to face the truth

Which? A. That there really are extraterrestrials from other planets or star systems that are visiting us or B. That there are demonic forces that are using the appearance of extraterrestrials from other planets or star systems to sucker people into a place where they'll believe everything they tell them?

I deny A on the basis of a Biblical world view and that such a thing, from the standpoint of a naturalist worldview, is impossible. I don't deny B because it fits the M.O. of Satan.
204 posted on 10/26/2009 8:28:49 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Quix
However, enjoy the rabbit trails. Some are considering sending some high IQ ferrets down a few occasionally to spice things up.

You're confusing rabbit trails with rabbit holes.

for refusing to face the truth

Which? A. That there really are extraterrestrials from other planets or star systems that are visiting us or B. That there are demonic forces that are using the appearance of extraterrestrials from other planets or star systems to sucker people into a place where they'll believe everything they tell them?

I deny A on the basis of a Biblical world view and that such a thing, from the standpoint of a naturalist worldview, is impossible. I don't deny B because it fits the M.O. of Satan.

Which is why you need to read less reactively and pay attention to what is actually said.
205 posted on 10/26/2009 8:29:57 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Hebrews 11:6

bttt


206 posted on 10/26/2009 8:30:28 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: aruanan

That’s encouraging.

Thanks.

I don’t see anything in Scripture that precludes A).

I just don’t believe it to be the case currently.


207 posted on 10/26/2009 8:36:11 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: aruanan

Which is why you need to read less reactively and pay attention to what is actually said.


conceivably.


208 posted on 10/26/2009 8:39:32 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne
After I read another comment about this one,
I realized how true it is.

It is possible that we may be in occupied territory,
but we know how the war ends.

C.S. Lewis does such a good job of
describing how this might happen
as a series of seemingly mundane events
with Daemonic intent toward the
destruction of Man

And how individuals,
acting in obediance to our Lord
can engage in Spiritual Warfare
in very real terms

209 posted on 10/26/2009 8:42:46 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Quix
I don’t see anything in Scripture that precludes A). I just don’t believe it to be the case currently.

Of course not, but, on the one hand, given the eschatology of the Bible and assuming for argument its truth, a bunch of star-folks suddenly showing up teaching things that undermine such eschatology and theology seems unlikely. On the other hand, if these visitors claim that they have arisen independently from purely natural causes, then it is more than highly unlikely that they are who they say they are.
210 posted on 10/26/2009 8:49:21 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: HangnJudge

Actually, my favorite book of his (although they are all astonishing) is “The Great Divorce.”

Speculation about demons is not useful, in my opinion. Rather, concentrate on things of God. Getting all involved in possible, unproven so-called events sounds like more than a waste of time, it’s like messing in the occult. Just my opinion.


211 posted on 10/26/2009 8:51:52 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Drill in the USA and offshore USA!! Drill NOW and build more refineries!!!! Defund the EPA!)
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To: aruanan

Perhaps you’d be willing to elaborate on your last sentence. I don’t think I followed what you were saying fully enough for my comfort.

OF COURSE SCRIPTURE IS TRUTH.

However, from the perspective of say a secularist or a nominal Christian . . .

‘Critters’ ride into down on exotic technology . . . offer purported holographic 3D videos of home planets, earth’s history; “Creating” Jesus, Buddha, etc. performing all those miracles with THEIR technologies . . .

even take teams of earthlings TO the distant planets to see the distant cities etc. etc. etc.

All this is unfolding nightly for months on CNN etc.

I think it’s a bit undertandable that some folks will be deluded—masses of people will be deluded.


212 posted on 10/26/2009 8:57:46 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Perhaps you’d be willing to elaborate on your last sentence. I don’t think I followed what you were saying fully enough for my comfort.

This was my last sentence:

On the other hand, if these visitors claim that they have arisen independently from purely natural causes, then it is more than highly unlikely that they are who they say they are.

"more than highly unlikely" = "practically impossible"

By this I mean that from a naturalistic viewpoint there is not enough time in the universe for life to have evolved independently in multiple sites. The odds even for life to have evolved on earth, especially the odds for abiogenesis to have occurred to provide something for natural selection to be able to work on (ha ha), are vanishingly small. If the improbability for something occurring is a, then the improbability for it occurring twice is not 2a but a2. By the time you get to the odds of an intelligent, spacefaring race, you're dealing with a situation whose natural appearance is just not going to happen, let alone the 9 to 12 races mentioned previously.
213 posted on 10/26/2009 9:24:08 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Certainly I agree with that.

Never been a great fan of evolution.

Evidently, the “ET’s” aren’t either.


214 posted on 10/26/2009 9:28:25 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: aruanan

*sigh*


215 posted on 10/26/2009 9:53:07 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Drill in the USA and offshore USA!! Drill NOW and build more refineries!!!! Defund the EPA!)
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To: Quix

I have this personal theory on why there is chaos in the Middle East. The Middle East is a massive dwelling place of demons because it’s arid desert, the opposite of the rest of the world. There’s conflict, but not to the extent that is in the desert regions of the world.

Now, the demons and Nephilim that were killed in the Flood lost their physical bodies, but not their spiritual selves. It makes sense then that their souls would dwell in the driest of places. You have to admit, it is a good theory as to why there is so much unbridled hatred and for Israel no less. There’s no logical explanation.


216 posted on 10/26/2009 10:13:54 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

Interesting theory.

Supposedly Iraq has some areas where desert and demons are thick together.

God also said some of the tribes would be at odds more or less forever because some individual didn’t do things God’s way in the beginning.

Thx.


217 posted on 10/26/2009 10:40:51 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne

I can’t tell if your sigh is for what I wrote or for what Quix wrote.


218 posted on 10/26/2009 10:46:29 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Ancient Drive
What is it that's abducting people, performing surgical tests, doing genetic testing, etc..?

Its beer. Drink enough of it and you'll let your neighbors do anything to you while you blame it on aliens.........

219 posted on 10/26/2009 10:52:04 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: Quix

Your welcome. I love a good theological discussion.


220 posted on 10/26/2009 11:21:07 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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