Could Aliens Actually be Fallen Angels?

I think that to completely dismiss the "alien" abductions and UFO sightings is just not very intelligent. The truth is that SOME

THING is doing these things. People have their unborne babies taken with no trace. People awake with peices of symetrical metal under their skin with no visible mark. People have thousands of hours of UFO videos, of which SOME are quite legitimate. There have been millions who have said they've been abducted. I highly doubt that every single one is lying. Even if just 5 people are telling the truth then there IS somthing "out there".

As a Christian I find no evidence in the Bible that God created any other forms of life not on Earth. But then how do you explain the alien phenomenom?

What is it that's abducting people, performing surgical tests, doing genetic testing, etc..? You could say that the gov't has bred hybrid human life forms that do this, but that seems unlikely. Maybe though, Im not throwing that theory away altogether.

I strongly beleive that the Bible is full of explanations as to what these "aliens" really are. The word alien simply means not of this planet. Therefor God is an alien. And so is another creation of his. The only thing he created besides us humans. Angels. Way back in time Lucifer tried to attain God's level of power. He was cast out of heavan along with 1/3 of all the angels(the ones who followed Lucifer). Him and his followers were cast into what the Bible calls the "Third Heavan". The third heavan is simply the universe. Space, the sky around the earth, etc.../

Contrary to most people's beleif, Satan was NOT cast into hell. He was cast into the 3rd heavan. He was also given the title, "Prince of the Power of the Air". The bible says that he and his fallen angels inhabit the 3rd heavan, or our universe.

2 Thes 2:9-Even him (refering to AntiChrist), whose coming is after the working of Satan withall power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, thatthey might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie...

Along with this passage it is said that one of the AntiChrists first miracles to attempt to persuade the people of his power will be to call fire from the sky. This could be taken several ways since Revelation is highly symbolic, but it COULD represent the AntiChrist(who IS satan) calling HIS fallen angels(the aliens) out and into the open. Imagine if Hitler at the height of his power had called down a fleet of millions of aliens complete with UFOs. What if he claimed to have direct relations with them and said that together with these aliens the human race would go into the future. More than likely MANY people, even non-Nazis, would follow Hitler like a god. This I beleive is just what the AC will do.

We wrestle not with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers, with wicked spirits in high places, literally, "in the heavens" "in the aerial regions" Eph.6:12

Luke 21...and there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth will be anxiety of nations with bewilderment, of sound, of sea and of surf, men fainting at heart from fear and expecting of the things which are coming on the earth. For the powers, the dominions of the heavens will be shaken.

Also notice the description of a huge army led by Satan in Revelation 9. It says that this army were like locusts with the face of men. Imagine for a second what a locust head with a humanoid face on it would look like...

"God promised that a descendant of Eve's would crush satan(a foreshadow of Jesus). Now if you were Satan, and you wanted to prevent this, what would you do?

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days - and also afterward - when the sons of God(those God had created, the fallen angels here) went to the daughters of men and had children by them'So the Lord said, I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth ... for I am grieved that I have made them.' But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord." Genesis 6:4-8

"Noah was the only one who had not been affected by the apparent sexual and genetic experiments carried out by these fallen angels. ALSO, in the New Testament it says that "AS in the days of NOAH, so to shall the coming of the son of man(Jesus' 2nd Coming) be."

Excerpted from "Come Sail Away" by Guy Malone http://www.AlienResistance.org Roswell NM

The scripture above tells a part of what it was like in the days of Noah. Notice too that the whole alien abduction frenzy didn't start until the late 1940's, when Israel became a nation. Israel becoming a nation is the single most significant prophecy that has been fuflfilled. For thousands of years there was no Israel. Then in the late 40's Israel became a nation.

ALSO: PER CAPITA the country with the most abduction accounts is Israel. The US has the most, but per capita its Israel. That is significant.

99.9% of people in the world beleive that these "things" are aliens from another planet, that is IF they even beleive in them. A VERY few think that they are actually the fallen angels of the Bible. The AntiChrist would have an easy time convincing people of his authority if he were to call down fleets of UFO's from the sky.

The fact that most people beleive they are aliens and not fallen angels would present the AntiChrist with an incredible oppourtunity to deceive.

Given the evidence above, I would like to know what you all think now. And really consider it...

Indeed, the fallen angels are quite busy trying to undermine God's creation. Originally, all angels were created by God to carry out the specifics of terra-forming all those planets that were and will be inhabited in the future. Angels are not married, nor are they given in marriage. So, angels are created without all the aggressions we have (They don't need all those troublesome hormones we have). We were created a little lower than the angels, it says. They all have their specific areas of purpose. some will handle the garden while others will attend to the development and placement of humankind on inhabitable planets. But, all those angels (who remained with God) continue happily to obey God. Satan is the author of the flying saucer. They must sit back and laugh at the mysticism that humans stir up among themselves. There is, without a doubt, life like we humans abounding in the universe. Scientists would be surprised at the commonality of life.....But they would be mostly amazed at the quantity of it. The fact that other planets are inhabited does not disprove God...It proves it all the more. God continues this very minute to create new planets, to harvest those that are ready to be harvested....and most amazingly to me provides the way to salvage all his creation back to himself. It's true about Jesus. He and He alone is the key to our salvation. It's the same every where in the universe. But be careful to put things into perspective....God calls us sheep. We have our puspose in creation also. We can understand all mysteries and have knowledge of all that is contained in creation and know the purpose of it all....But without love the Bible says that we are like a clanging symbol. Our ultimate purpose is to obey God....and that's the undebateable, indisputeable truth.>/P>

The truth is that SOMETHING is doing these things. People have their unborne [sic] babies taken with no trace. People awake with peices [sic] of symetrical [sic] metal under their skin with no visible mark. People have thousands of hours of UFO videos, of which SOME are quite legitimate. There have been millions who have said they've been abducted [sic]. I highly doubt that every single one is lying. Even if just 5 people are telling the truth then there IS somthing "out there".

Show me documented evidence that a woman who was actually pregnant and in a doctor's care had her baby disappear in a way that wasn't a spontaneous miscarriage. Same goes for symmetrical pieces of metal. Show me the interviews of "millions who have said they've been abducted." Did you know that among those claiming to have been abducted there are none who were born via Caesarian section?

Here is a reply to a post several years ago on FR that made the same claim, additional comments in brackets. Of course, it would be like Satan and his co-workers to use in a self-aggrandizing way natural phenomena such as atmospheric lights together with what I describe below coupled with a person's willingness to believe, his suggestibility, and his innate ability to impose order on randomness (seeing faces in carpet and wood patterns, figures in clouds or constellations, Jesus on a burnt bagel, or Mary in dried lawn sprinkler water deposits on a window) to sucker him into a state of manipulability.

"CHRISTIAN EXPERTS SAY UFO 'ABDUCTIONS' ARE HORROR OF FALLEN ANGELS"

Ha ha ha ha ha. I've got a better explanation that either alien abductions or fallen angels. Note that many of these abduction tales have these common features:
1. The person awakens at night in his bedroom.
2. He is paralyzed.
3. He is borne along paralyzed somewhere in the night.
4. When he arrives, it is to a brightly lighted room filled with strange objects and weird-looking genderless bald creatures that appear to be mostly big eyes.
5. They do medical things to him, painful things, that he is powerless to resist, often involving sharp pains to the abdomen and/or to the genitals.
6. He is eventually returned to his bed.
My explanation for alien abduction stories is that they are a combination of two things:
A. The mind awakening while the body is still in the paralyzed state characteristic of certain parts of the sleep cycle, and
B. A heavily-processed memory of one's earliest traumatic experience--being born.
The experience was, for some, so striking that memories were formed, but merely as sensory images with virtually no intellectual context since the infant had not yet developed a sophisticated means of explaining his world to himself, and accompanied by feelings of pain and fear, both of which are known to be effective agents for imprinting sensory memory. The experience of pain is hardwired. Fear depends only on a sudden unexpected change of environment especially when accompanied by pain or trauma, such as getting compressed by uterine contractions sometimes for hours and then squeezed out of a tube so tight that it often deforms the cranium. An interesting tidbit is that, at least at the time I read it several year ago, among supposed abductees there was none that was born by Caesarian. All were vaginal deliveries.

The processing comes in later when the sensory memory is elicited through nightmare, an episode of sleep paralysis, a hypnotic regression. And perhaps it is this trauma bridging the two locations of pre and post birth that serves to result in a lasting neural imprint of the sensory input. It would be interesting to see if there is a greater number of 'abductees' who were born to mothers undergoing 'natural' childbirth without drugs for pain and in hospital than to those who were heavily sedated (which can affect the unborn infant as well).

[This processing would be of the same sort that takes place when one assigns something recognizable to some random pattern, such as when one sees faces in carpet patterns when looking with unfocused eyes or when one approaches something not identified. As one gets closer and closer, adding visual cues, his idea of what it may be changes until he has enough information to correctly identify it. Of course, he may not be able to correctly identify it and, so, attributes to it the characteristics of something with which he is familiar through his own experiences or within the context of his religious/cultural belief system--it was an angel, it was a demon, it was an incubus, it was a succubus, it was a flying craft of unknown origins.]

1. The person awakens at night in his bedroom.

The bedroom is the dark, warm safety of the womb, the preborn's first and immediate source of sensory input. Later on in the pregnancy, he comes to hear and recognize the voices of his mother and father or others who are around often.

2. He is paralyzed.

The memory of constriction of movement during labor and while being expelled through the vagina.

3. He is borne along paralyzed somewhere in the night.

The transition from safe and dark and warm and muffled sounds to uncertainty, brightness, noise, and coldness of the delivery room.

4. When he arrives it is to a brightly lighted room filled with strange objects and weird-looking genderless bald creature s that appear to be mostly big eyes.

He comes into a brightly lighted and noisy delivery room. He sees brightly lighted objects. He sees people moving around. Both the doctors and nurses are clothed pretty much the same, gender-revealing features being obscured by masks, gowns, and caps. Just about the only facial features easily seen, and therefore made all the more prominent, are the eyes (this is especially the case with hospital deliveries up until a few decades ago). The significance of eyes also seems to be hardwired, depending little on any advanced levels of cognition (viz, the supposed effectiveness of what appear to be eyes in protective coloration in insects and other animals)

5. They do medical things to him, painful things, that he is powerless to resist.

Medical procedures are performed on him: he may have his nose and mouth suctioned out, he may be intubated, his umbilical cord is severed. He may have blood drawn. He may have monitor leads attached to him. He is given a series of reflex tests. If he's a boy, he is often circumcised. And there's nothing he can do to stop it. That is, no matter what he does, no matter what he experiences as fear, the experience continues until it is done.

6. He is eventually returned to his bed.

After all the light, noise, and pain, he is bundled up and placed in a relatively quiet nursery and in an unmoving, still bed--quite unlike the warm and gurgling place the womb was. Into a bed, in fact, quite like the one where he, as an adult, is experiencing in his conscious state of sleep paralysis.* As an adult, he falls back asleep and eventually awakens. If he remembers anything at all, it is recast in terms of his current beliefs and imagery.

Given this scenario, we would expect to find abduction stories most often among those who were born in hospitals under conditions of light or no sedation (or at least given to the mother late enough in the delivery to miminally impact the infant) and who also, perhaps, are narcoleptic and during a time in history and in countries in which there is a cultural mythology about aliens and abductions.

And it's interesting to note that a lot of these abduction stories are not spontaneous recollections but are elicited through hypnosis, a state in which a person can become hyper-aware of memories** as well as very open to suggestion. If the operator or the subject (but especially if both) has already assumed that such abductions are real, then it is all the more likely that any such remnant memory of birth would be reinterpreted according to the imagery of abduction stories known to either or both.

* Several other symptoms commonly occur with narcolepsy:
Sleep attacks (short, irresistible episodes of sleep during the day).

Sleep paralysis (the inability to move while going to sleep or waking up).

Hypnagogic hallucinations (intense visual or auditory experiences at the beginning or end of a sleep period that are hard to distinguish from reality and are sometimes terrifying).

Disturbed night time sleep (tossing and turning in bed, leg jerking, nightmares, and frequent awakenings).
**The recall of memory under hypnosis appears to be more like that caused during brain surgery in which memories are triggered in an almost holographic recall instead of as an intellectual Cliff's note summary of the memory, more typical of waking recollection.

It appears to be more complicated than that.

The best Biblical scholars I’ve read, insist that fallen angels are NOT demons.

That demons are fallen angels who LOST THEIR BODIES in Noah’s flood.

Many fallen angels did not.

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Many sources have asserted that SOME GREYS are bioengineered containers for demons to operate through. Not all greys, however.

Some greys are purportedly ‘just’ worker bees . . . organic robots who reportedly live about a year and a half and do very specific sorts of tasks under strict control of ‘higher’ beings.

It does not REALLY MATTER if they are

1. demons pure and simple—which I greatly doubt that they are.

2. fallen angels—which I’m greatly convinced that they are.

3. citizens from distant planets and galactic clusters.

REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY ARE, THEY ARE IN CAHOOTS WITH SATAN AND THE GLOBALIST OLIGARCHY TOWARD SETTING UP THE SATANIC END TIMES BIBLE PREDICTED GLOBAL GOVERNMENT; COERCING/SCARING CITIZENS INTO IT AND MAINTAINING TYRANNICAL CONTROL THROUGH IT.

THAT’S SUFFICIENT KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THEM TO KNOW WHO’S SIDE THEY ARE ON! Everything else is detail.

Why not just share your theory? Also, can any doctor provide PROOF of babies in the womb and disappearing the next day? No, they can’t, that’s just more stories from UFO Profiteers.

I have a speech enabled Mac, I highlighted your post below, right clicked on it, scrolled down to speech and then clicked on “start speaking”, just for fun.

HERE IS QUIX’S THEORY:

THIS IS MY DISTILLATION OF 10’S OF THOUSANDS OF PUZZLE PIECES. I don’t per se, myself, accept this as proven fact . . . just the most likely summary given all I’ve studied.

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So the Ruling Elite are DEALING with 9-12 Fallen Angel Races, how do they “deal with” 9-12 different races? How do they communicate?

QX: Some are as human looking as you or I and communicate similarly though also reportedly much ‘telepathically.’ One of the military’s greatest fears is that such critters have already taken on positions of power in the human structures/orgs/governments.

There’s also purportedly a power to clone folks and download personality, memories etc. of the person cloned though with the clone still quite controlled by the . . . controllers . . . slipping that person back into the role of the cloned person. Who knows.

Have all these races learned languages of the Earth?

QX: The more human types have purporetdly learned unreal numbers of earth languages. Though functionally, they don’t have to learn that many to deal with the power brokers. And, given super advanced learning technologies and ‘brain/knowledge downloads,’ learning a language is purportedly not the challenge for them it is for us.

There’s also reports of the governmnet KNOWING there’s coming a time when there’ll be NO electronic communications and ALL military communications will be by ‘ET’ facilitated ‘telepathy’ [i.e. spirit world communications, imho]

Military personnel with certain DNA facilitating such communications are sought out and trained in super secret projects with very complex computer programs. Interestingly, the traffic they were trained to transmit sounded more or less exactly like the Secret and TS radio communications I dealt with as a Radioman in the Navy.

Are they posing as human?

QX: Evidently many do. Scares the _______ out of military and government leaders . . . There’s reportedly a kind of gate to go through like screening for metal at the airport to get to deeper parts of the Pentegon . . . only its scanning brains for any non human patterns to keep them out of those sections.

Or do they retain their Alien Appearance and deal with the Globalists in ET form in private?

QX: Hard to say. That bunch of puzzle pieces gets really wierd fast. . . . everything from OThuga offering a daughter . . . to every elite having to bugger toddler boys for initiation rites to ‘Draco’s and other such reptilian ‘species’ being invovled in such goings on.

I’m not eager to read a lot of that so I don’t. I’m just kind of peripherally aware that here’s a bunch of data there that I don’t know what to do with and had rather not do anything with it.

The War under Dulce near Los Alamos purportedly involved Dracos . . . with vats down deep . . . a slurry . . . for food . . . with human body parts . . .

So there are 9-12 Fallen Angel Races that the Ruling Elite have to deal with.

QX: That is the most consistent ball park figure I’ve seen for over 30 years from probably more than 2 dozen different sources.

The 9-12 Fallen Angel Races who the Ruling Elite have to deal with also play Good Cop/Bad Cop with the Ruling Elite, so we don’t know whether they are Good Angels or Bad Angels? Could they all be Bad Angels or Good Angels? Or is it a mixture?

QUIX: NO. I HAVE NO DOUBT.

THEY ARE ALL BAD. GOD’S ANGEL ARMIES DON’T BEGIN TO BEHAVE AS THESE CRITTERS DO. THEY ARE ALL WORKING TO SET UP SATAN’S GLOBAL GOVERNMENT.

= BAD, BAD, BAD.

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You STILL up to pitiful pathetic naysaying like that.

Sad.

I forget who’s book has the documentation of cases where

Come on, it saddens me to see that a person can't come up with a scenario based on known facts that explains things in a more direct and less extraordinary (though no less supernatural) way and be characterized by another as being engaged in "pitiful pathetic naysaying," especially right before the other says, "I forget who's [sic] book has the documentation of cases..."

Have you forgotten what I said elsewhere in the same piece and in earlier posts?

Of course, it would be like Satan and his co-workers to use in a self-aggrandizing way natural phenomena such as atmospheric lights together with what I describe below coupled with a person's willingness to believe, his suggestibility, and his innate ability to impose order on randomness (seeing faces in carpet and wood patterns, figures in clouds or constellations, Jesus on a burnt bagel, or Mary in dried lawn sprinkler water deposits on a window) to sucker him into a state of manipulability.

And

Given the fact that the likelihood of other intelligent life (or even unintelligent life) having evolved elsewhere in the universe by purely natural, aleatory means just one other time (assuming for the sake of argument that it happened here) is virtually zero and that each succeeding time would be that likelihood times that likelihood and so on for as many more instances that one wants to posit, there is no chance at all that one race, let alone 9-12 races, of aliens is strolling around the earth, striking secret deals with government, business, and military power brokers, occasionally taking time off to mutilate cattle and stick probes up people's butts.

The weirdness or disparity of everything attributed to them doesn't seem consistent with visiting space aliens as much as it does with those entities described by C.S. Lewis in That Hideous Strength.

There's the possibility that the optical phenomenon described as UFOs are phenomena as natural as the aurora borealis, red sprites, and blue jets. This doesn't mean, though, that they can't be used to lead people to believe one thing or another in the same way that knowledge of eclipses was used by Columbus to his advantage on his second voyage.

Some like to reinterpret old stories of goblins, sprites, demons, angels, incubi and succubi as encounters with extraterrestrials by gullible, ignorant, religiously-blinded nabobs. They believe that it is they who are the cognoscenti who have attained enough of the right kind of knowledge to understand that the visitors are really from other planets sent here to study us and to establish contact with the wise few to help prepare everyone for that great day of revelation which will break humanity free from its shackles of religious superstition and nationalism and usher in an bright era of brotherhood, understanding, and technologically-advanced means of doing whatever it is we've always wanted to do.

To me, they look like suckers getting set up for the big con.

I didn't say anything here to deny your underlying hypothesis concerning tales of UFOs and alien abductions. You really should read more carefully.

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