Posted on 10/17/2009 3:14:48 PM PDT by NYer
Anyone know when the next consistory is scheduled?
from the article:
“...which the Wisconsin-born prefect of the Apostolic Signatura is likely to join at the next consistory, expected to take place sometime in mid-2010.”
We need more priests dressed like that on a regular basis. What a beautiful site!
Pray for the Holy Father’s good health and long life.
Thanks, it pays to read things in their entirety ;-)
Nihil Persperati. You post many articles so I’m sure you just read it in a hurry.
Unfortunately, the appointment of San Franciscan William Levada as DCF was and continues to be a disaster as was the recent exit of Archbishop Malcolm Ranjith. While Burke’s appointment is to be hailed it may not yield the kind of results that are potentially trumpeted in the article.
Who was that freeper that stated (a few weeks ago) that Burke’s move to the Vatican from St. Louis was a demotion because he criticized other bishops too much?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2347555/posts?q=1&;page=1#18
Kolokotronis is a good guy, but on this one he’s offbase. Everyone knew Burke was PROMOTED. The court he is in charge of is not something someone is exiled to head up. The simple fact is that for many years Burke has enjoyed tremendous support in Rome. He was very well liked by both JP II and Benedict XVI.
We’ll see. :)
Kolokotronis is a good guy, but on this one he’s offbase.
Yes, he has always seemed to be just that. And as I am very sympathetically inclined to the Orthodox history and point of view, I also happen to enjoy reading his posts quite a lot.
Everyone knew Burke was PROMOTED. The court he is in charge of is not something someone is exiled to head up.
I felt the same way. It seems to me that this position is obviously an important one, and nothing like being tucked quietly away to avoid doing any harm.
It was also suggested on that thread that Burke was a terrible administrator who left St. Louis in terrible shape, but even if true I don't think that means this appointment is a demotion. Obviously the Holy Father could have given this position to him because of his great strengths, without intending to punish any perceived weakness he may have in diocesan administration.
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Different men have different strengths.
Our former pastor was not a "people priest". He was loved, but he wasn't Father Happy Clappy. But he kept the liturgy egos reigned in, he refurbished the church building with taste and Catholicity, and he got the parish out of debt for the first time ever.
There are plenty of priests around who will speak out, too many who try to be loved, but not enough who do what this man did, and he was exactly what our parish needed.
We miss him.
Will this have an additional impact on Pope Benedict’s choices? The Bishops being named all seem to be quite orthodox/on the straight and narrow.
I’m hoping he starts slapping heads very soon.
Um, having lived through the Burke years in StL as a member of the Cathedral parish no less, I'm with Kolo on this one. There's a lot people don't know. And that's just what happened at the bishop level. My own opinion is that he was Peter-principled up. He's much better suited to be on the high court and I hope Rigali can keep him reigned in when it comes to appointing people because if rumors around here are true, there's some good, solid, bishop material men he's going to try to block.
Burke has all the grace and finesse of an alligator on one of those catch rope things. He stepped on A LOT of toes that in no way should have been, not just the St. Stans people, has zero instincts when it comes to diplomacy, made some incredibly bone-headed personnel moves that showed absolutely that he does NOT have a good judge of character, and spent cash like there's no tomorrow. The seminary did need to be expanded, but we didn't need some of the other stuff.
There's things people don't know. Burke's in Rome to keep him out of the US spotlight and one of the things I really fear is that this move is just going to feed his ego. Talk about someone who has the crosier lean down to an art form, most of the other bishops forget the thing when they go up to the pulpit. Not Burke.
We thank the Holy See for sending us Bishop Carlson. He may not be quite as outspoken, but he's down to earth, a VERY bright man, very much in control and his sermons are to the point of the readings with a joke or two thrown in. He's definitely just what we needed.
You wrote:
“Um, having lived through the Burke years in StL as a member of the Cathedral parish no less, I’m with Kolo on this one. There’s a lot people don’t know. And that’s just what happened at the bishop level. My own opinion is that he was Peter-principled up. He’s much better suited to be on the high court and I hope Rigali can keep him reigned in when it comes to appointing people because if rumors around here are true, there’s some good, solid, bishop material men he’s going to try to block.”
No. If there is a good man out there, Burke will not stand in his way at all. Burke is a good and holy man. I have known him personally for almost a decade. I literally have a letter from him sitting on my kitchen table (my first letter ever from the signatura!). I can’t claim to know everything about him, but I know he is a good and decent man. I also know he does much good that he NEVER talks about. If he has a character flaw, it is that he constantly tries to give people second chances because he’s just so charitable. I’ve seen it first hand. He won’t budge on doctrinal issues (nor should he), but he often bends on personal issues even when the person taking the hit is Burke himself.
“There’s things people don’t know. Burke’s in Rome to keep him out of the US spotlight and one of the things I really fear is that this move is just going to feed his ego.”
No. Burke was moved to Rome because he was needed there. He was already - before this promotion - the highest ranking canon lawyer from America EVER. It made sense to put him in charge of the signatura.
“Talk about someone who has the crosier lean down to an art form, most of the other bishops forget the thing when they go up to the pulpit. Not Burke.”
Because he’s not supposed to. The Bishop is supposed to preach with crozier in hand according to longstanding western tradition when he wishes to teach in capacity as a bishop with authority rather than just giving a priestly homily so-to-speak. Burke is a stickler for such traditions. When he was a priest he always followed the rubrics of the Mass. As a bishop he does the same and throws in all of the traditional practices that many Catholics miss. I know of an altar boy - now a college student - who always loved the fact that when Archbishop Burke said Mass he always wore his gloves - as was once standard for bishops.
“We thank the Holy See for sending us Bishop Carlson. He may not be quite as outspoken, but he’s down to earth, a VERY bright man, very much in control and his sermons are to the point of the readings with a joke or two thrown in. He’s definitely just what we needed.”
Time will tell on Carlson. There’s already plenty of wispering that he is not very pro-active.
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