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New study: Americans are losing their religion, choosing to be 'nones' instead of nuns
New York Daily News ^ | September 22, 2009 | Eitan Gavish

Posted on 09/26/2009 7:15:41 AM PDT by Utah Binger

According to a new study from Trinity College, 15% of Americans don't associate with a religious denomination.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/09/22/2009-09-22_new_study_americans_are_losing_their_religion_choosing_to_be_nones_instead_of_nu.html#ixzz0SDnQoSOr

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TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Skeptics/Seekers; Worship
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; apostates; doubter; secularization; trends; unchurched
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There is more to life than organized religion. My rule says: If you can be honest with yourself and communicate with that higher being in your own way, you do not need any help. If you are doing it for social reasons, that's the only reason to join any group or religion.

Some of us do not need a religious group to be religious.

1 posted on 09/26/2009 7:15:41 AM PDT by Utah Binger
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FYI


2 posted on 09/26/2009 7:16:37 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Where Thunderbirds Soar and Protect)
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To: Utah Binger

I agree with you. I no longer go to church....but I do think I pray more and try to do good.


3 posted on 09/26/2009 7:19:54 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Utah Binger

Some evangelicals have given up on denominations they have formerly followed due to liberal political nonsense that has invaded the World Council of Churches (WCC) for example. Other non-denominational churches which are more conservative leaning have appeared to fill the void that many traditional liberal denominational churches created.


4 posted on 09/26/2009 7:21:52 AM PDT by paltz
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To: Sacajaweau
but I do think I pray more and try to do good.

And you are your own person.

5 posted on 09/26/2009 7:23:17 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Where Thunderbirds Soar and Protect)
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To: Utah Binger

People constantly decry “organized religion” as if the mere fact of an activity being organized is damning. What poppycock! Any human activity involving more than one person will involve organization. People who are of like minds on certain things are free to associate in a free society for any purpose that is not criminal. Organizations can do things that are good or things that are bad, just like individuals. The superficial creis against “organized religion” not only reveal thoughtlessness, but a sweeping bigotry against something that logically is neither good nor bad insofar as it is organized.


6 posted on 09/26/2009 7:23:33 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Utah Binger

All through college I was an agnostic, with no particular use for religion. Then I gradually discovered that Christianity is much bettter than religion. It offers emotional and intellectual stability, not because it answers all my questions, but because it allowed me to bundle together my unanswered questions in such a way that I could trust in God that some day they would be answered. The real question that should be considered by those contemplating the embracing of a worldview is not “Which religion is better?” but rather what is true?


7 posted on 09/26/2009 7:27:09 AM PDT by Phantom4
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To: Unam Sanctam

IMO, “organized religion” is code for “Catholic Church”.


8 posted on 09/26/2009 7:29:21 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: Unam Sanctam
People who are of like minds on certain things are free to associate in a free society for any purpose that is not criminal

I agree with that statement, however if those folks try to convince me to give money for their religion to organize, they lose me.

9 posted on 09/26/2009 7:29:38 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Where Thunderbirds Soar and Protect)
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To: Utah Binger

I have found the most ignorant tunnel vision individuals in churches. They must need it. Somehow it is letting them down.


10 posted on 09/26/2009 7:31:35 AM PDT by television is just wrong (one bad ass mistake America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Utah Binger

You sound like Oprah. Spirituality without religion is like football without referees. You personally may have rules to follow, but many just do what “feels good”. Sometimes we need to feel bad for what we have or have not done.


11 posted on 09/26/2009 7:32:21 AM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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I have found the most ignorant tunnel vision individuals in churches.

Wow! Ever try the predominant religion in Utah?

12 posted on 09/26/2009 7:34:50 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Where Thunderbirds Soar and Protect)
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To: aliquando

Has the preacher arrived?


13 posted on 09/26/2009 7:36:29 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Where Thunderbirds Soar and Protect)
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To: Utah Binger

I had a family of them living next door to me when I was a kid.


14 posted on 09/26/2009 7:38:18 AM PDT by television is just wrong (one bad ass mistake America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Utah Binger

Well said.

The problem is that 1) “in your own way” is incompatible with submission to God, and that 2) you may not have a choice.

Scripture plainly says that if you are a Christian, the Lord adds you to his church. That’s not a capital “C,” rather a little “c,” also depicted in scripture as the “bride of Christ” and the “body of Christ.”

If you belong to Him, you belong to his body. I won’t take the metaphor forward with words like “paralysis” or “dead,” but you get the picture.

You’re either in or out, your choice, but sitting in the shadows and hoping the Light spills over onto you isn’t going to work.

Sometimes that American self-made spirit butts heads with the notion of an all-powerful God who’s not as impressed with us as we are with ourselves.


15 posted on 09/26/2009 7:41:16 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Utah Binger

I am no preacher. Just a regular joe. What I said was based on personal obervations with friends and family. Without organization people tend to lose discipline. It then falls into distancing themselves from G_d.


16 posted on 09/26/2009 7:43:04 AM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: Phantom4

Bingo!

And the One who “created heaven and earth and all that is in it” didn’t make truth so obscure that we can’t find it.


17 posted on 09/26/2009 7:44:30 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: aliquando
Without organization people tend to lose discipline.

I suspect my problem with a certain organization is that the discipline was more than I could handle. Just seems to me that lots of folks really do need a certain amount of such. But, there are others that do not. Self discipline is the key. For instance, last night I had one too many. I'm paying for that today.

18 posted on 09/26/2009 8:02:12 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Where Thunderbirds Soar and Protect)
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To: Utah Binger

Yea, I can see your point.
Takes all the heat off of actually following up with those principles and duties too.


19 posted on 09/26/2009 8:06:05 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Utah Binger
America is much more secular than in the past, and will almost certainly be more so in the future. When asked my religion, I don't hesitate to tell people that I'm an atheist. 50 years ago or more ago, I probably would have kept it to myself.

There's still some social pressure on politicians to say they believe in God; there's only one self-admitted atheist in Congress, if I recall correctly. I suspect a significant fraction of politicians would admit to being atheists or agnostics if they felt there were be no negative consequences come election time.

20 posted on 09/26/2009 8:18:26 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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