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A Message to ELCA Rostered Leaders from Presiding Bishop Mark S. Hanson
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America ^ | 23 September AD 2009 | Mark S. Hanson

Posted on 09/23/2009 3:51:29 PM PDT by lightman

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They say that in comedy, "timing is everything".

So too, also, with tragedy.

The timing of this letter appears prima facie to cast a pall over the 1200+ ELCA Lutherans who will be attending the Society of the Holy Trinity who will be gathering in Retreat next Tuesday through Thursday in Mundelein, IL.

1 posted on 09/23/2009 3:51:31 PM PDT by lightman
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...


Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

2 posted on 09/23/2009 3:52:24 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: Kolokotronis; NYer; Salvation; LibreOuMort; Cronos; Huber; kosta50; sionnsar

Ping.


3 posted on 09/23/2009 3:53:17 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: Kolokotronis; NYer; Salvation; LibreOuMort; Cronos; Huber; kosta50; sionnsar

Ping.


4 posted on 09/23/2009 3:54:47 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: lightman
...* Biblical authority: This is a marvelous moment to deepen our engagement with Scripture

Should have done that before you got into this mess, Mark. Now's a little late, don't you think?

5 posted on 09/23/2009 3:55:38 PM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
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Correction on my opening post:

1200+ will be attending the Lutheran CORE convocation; 220 + will be attending the STS General Retreat.

6 posted on 09/23/2009 3:56:55 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: bcsco

My in-laws are ELCA. As conservative as they come— until it comes to Biblical authority. They visited my church the day our pastor encouraged yes on Prop 8. On the way home my father-in-law said it was great how different people can read the same Scripture and get a different meaning out of it.

I told him that he was doing just what Luther fought— taking the word of man over the Word of God. He didn’t like that too much.


7 posted on 09/23/2009 3:58:46 PM PDT by hoppity
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To: Charles Henrickson; Cletus.D.Yokel

Now that the die is cast, it’s time to mend fences. At least that’s the hope.


8 posted on 09/23/2009 3:59:18 PM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
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To: hoppity

I grew up LCMS, my family became WELS when we moved to Southern Wisconsin, then became ELCA. I’m now back to LCMS, thank God. We left the ELCA exactly for this reason, with their preaching anti-Bush from the pulpit a second reason.


9 posted on 09/23/2009 4:02:02 PM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
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To: lightman

Heretic.


10 posted on 09/23/2009 4:03:35 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: lightman

So how’ the hopey-changey homosexual thing working for you ELCA?


11 posted on 09/23/2009 4:05:37 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: lightman

Hanson is an heresiarch, Pastor. As +John Chrysostomos reminds us, speaking of +Paul’s letter to Titus, “[By} Contentions, he means, with heretics, in which he would not have us labour to no purpose, where nothing is to be gained, for they end in nothing....”

Why do you even allow them to disturb you?


12 posted on 09/23/2009 4:08:38 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: lightman
Yes, it would be comic, if it weren't tragic and affecting salvation.

Hanson -- he who would be UN/WCC 'Bishop of the World'.

13 posted on 09/23/2009 4:10:54 PM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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This is typical political speak signifying nothing. Does anyone really think that Bishop Hanson is open to those that oppose homosexuality? Let me translate what he is really saying: You idiots that dare question our decision to embrace homosexuality are too stupid to know that you can’t trust the Scriptures and you still believe in God’s law. Yes, we are heretics, but don’t stop sending us your money.


14 posted on 09/23/2009 4:11:16 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: lightman

Haha Mr. Hanson, how’s that heresy working out for ya? Here’s hoping the congregations starve your ilk out of the church.


15 posted on 09/23/2009 4:35:03 PM PDT by SoDak (bitter clinger)
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To: bcsco

I’m LCMS as well. ELCA churches have been fighting this for years. I’m glad it’s hurting them in the pocket book. Perverting the word is exactly what the dark side wants.


16 posted on 09/23/2009 4:41:02 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: hoppity
A very bold but truthful statement on your part. He did not like it too much because you revealed the truth.

Christians will be challenged and good for you to speak the truth, I think God was pleased with your response.....

17 posted on 09/23/2009 4:42:48 PM PDT by Kimmers (Be the kind of person when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, Oh crap, she's awake)
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To: lightman

Just another heretic in a long line of heretics.

Paging Tomás de Torquémada.


18 posted on 09/23/2009 4:46:22 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: bcsco
Now that the die is cast, it’s time to mend fences. At least that’s the hope.

Hanson is saying the same thing his predecessor Chilstrom said on another but less drastic occasion: "Go if you wish but leave your wallets, please."

As I said yesterday, this Hanson is a singularly deceptive little man. More clever than the obtuse tec-priestess Schori, but like all leftist subversives, too clever by half.

This "pastoral letter" has nothing to do with "mending fences." It is clearly meant to provide talking points to the media; the faithful in the church can go pound salt for all Hanson cares. He and his cohorts already decided they could write off 20% of the church without losing too much money to survive.

19 posted on 09/23/2009 4:53:36 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (truth--the liberal's kryptonite.)
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To: lightman

This guy is Naive or just not that bright. On Nov. 1st, my Church will be voting to stay or leave the ELCA. In the mean time, over half of us are designating our giving for use in our congregation only. I am doing that until the vote. I would use other names to describe him, but that would not be nice.


20 posted on 09/23/2009 7:14:30 PM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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