Lutheran (EL
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
So too, also, with tragedy.
The timing of this letter appears prima facie to cast a pall over the 1200+ ELCA Lutherans who will be attending the Society of the Holy Trinity who will be gathering in Retreat next Tuesday through Thursday in Mundelein, IL.
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
Should have done that before you got into this mess, Mark. Now's a little late, don't you think?
Heretic.
So how’ the hopey-changey homosexual thing working for you ELCA?
Hanson -- he who would be UN/WCC 'Bishop of the World'.
This is typical political speak signifying nothing. Does anyone really think that Bishop Hanson is open to those that oppose homosexuality? Let me translate what he is really saying: You idiots that dare question our decision to embrace homosexuality are too stupid to know that you can’t trust the Scriptures and you still believe in God’s law. Yes, we are heretics, but don’t stop sending us your money.
Haha Mr. Hanson, how’s that heresy working out for ya? Here’s hoping the congregations starve your ilk out of the church.
Just another heretic in a long line of heretics.
Paging Tomás de Torquémada.
This guy is Naive or just not that bright. On Nov. 1st, my Church will be voting to stay or leave the ELCA. In the mean time, over half of us are designating our giving for use in our congregation only. I am doing that until the vote. I would use other names to describe him, but that would not be nice.
http://www.alpb.org/forum/index.php?topic=2320.msg118428;topicseen#msg118428
A caveat: I am speaking only for myself here. What follows is purely and simply my oppinion and my oppinion alone.
A further caveat: My congregation, as a congregation of the "ELCA" prays for "our Bishops," Mark (Hanson) and Ralph (Dunkin) every Sunday. We continue to do so, and I have no plans to stop until we either cease being a congregation of the "ELCA" or Mark Hanson no longer occupies the office on the 11th floor of 8765 W. Higgins Road.
That being said: Mark Hanson, for myself, has forfieted the right to be honored with the title "Bishop" much less the honor of "Presiding Bishop." He has not protected the faith of the flock he was entrusted with, preferring to instead be a media figure and a political campaigner. It was precisely under his watch and guidance that the "ELCA" forsook her place in the Church catholic for being merely a sect. He has not lived up to the noble calling to which he was elected.
Mark Hanson may occupy the office space, but he is not worthy of being called, in anything other than derision, "Presiding Bishop." Bishop, coming from the Greek "episcope" means "overseer." I argue that Mark Hanson has abdicated the crucial task of "oversight." I refuse to recognize his oversight any longer.
I don't know what recourse there is, but I would gladly sign a petition to recall Mark Hanson as the "Presiding Bishop" of the "ELCA." Come to think of it, that would be a heckuva memorial for our next Synod Assembly, if I'm around that long...
He can sit in the chair, he may wear the biggest pectoral cross in the room, but none of those things make the man a Bishop. He has failed and failed so spectacularly, that he is not worthy of trust and respect any longer.
And no, my friend Peter, I will not accord him sympathy. Those that care more for their "legacy" than for what is True and Right deserve to be despised rather than trusted. I believe the most pastoral response to Mark would be to gently ask him to see where he can no longer serve and step aside. But he is not interested in either being pastoral nor recieving a pastoral rebuke. Isn't it interesting that the "ELCA's" "Lutheran Center" has not had a chaplain to deal pastorally with the PB and the Churchwide staff?
To my view Mark Hanson has lost the ability to be the "Presiding Bishop" in any substantive way.
Again, just my view on the subject.
Pr. Jerry Kliner, STS
I don't think I can count on all my fingers and toes the number of times he used the leftist catch-phrase "conversation" in this unbiblical piece of excrement. It's the same word used by the homo-nazis who publish the names of those who value and want to protect marriage in its intended and God-ordained manifestation. How does one have a conversation with a blasphemy spewing, God-hating devil?
Would someone who’s going please ask the Right Honorable Bishop to explain why Jesus would make one rule in Matthew 19:4-5, and then think He’d be OK telling people:
“Jesus did in fact say that man and woman (not man and man, woman and woman, man and pet, or man and boy) are joined, and when joined by God, let no man put asunder, but we voted and decided to teach you all to ignore JUST THIS BIT of the Bible and do what we say instead.”
God may have broken many of the rules that men set forth, but He’s never broken any of His own rules.
I’d like to see what guidance ELCA is going to come out with in teaching this ‘new version’ of the Bible to children. It’s the question I’ve asked my pastors.