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Minneapolis tornado rips Lutheran conference on gays in the church (Pics)
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| August 20, 2009
| james mary evans
Posted on 08/20/2009 10:36:05 AM PDT by NYer
Here’s the church… Where’s the steeple?
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The inverted Cross atop Central Lutheran Church in Minneapolis dangled from the steeple on Wednesday following a rare downtown twister as the ELCA Churchwide Assembly was in legislative session across the street at the Minneapolis Convention Center.
Things that make you go, hmmm…
Countless spiritual souls over the ages have commented on seeing God in all things. So, how about manifestations of physical evils found within nature, or, as the American justice system calls them: Acts of God… Perhaps a lesson from the fig tree — re-reading Mark 13: 5-6, 28-29 — occured Wednesday on 3rd street in downtown Minneapolis, Mn.
First, this from the Catholic News Agency yesterday:
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THE NORTH PLAZA HAD BEEN SET AS "THE CARILLON CAFE" WITH SEATING FOR 200 AND SERVING STATIONS UNDER TWO LARGE TENTS.
Minneapolis, Minn., Aug 18, 2009 / 11:38 pm (CNA).- The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) is considering a proposal that would allow members in homosexual relationships to serve as clergy. It has denied a motion to require a higher proportion of votes for the proposal to pass.
On Monday delegates gathered at the Minneapolis Convention Center rejected a proposal to require approval from a two-thirds supermajority instead of a simple majority when the measure comes to a final vote, expected on Friday.
ELCA Presiding Bishop Mark Hanson cautioned earlier in the day that the outcome of the majority versus supermajority vote shouldn’t be seen as strongly indicating how the debate will be decided.
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EQUIPMENT AND PARTS OF THE MASSIVE TENT THAT WAS "PUB CENTRAL" WAS BLOWN INTO THIRD AVENUE.
Supporters of the high threshold for passage said it was necessary to signal wide support for a major change in the churchs approach to homosexuality. About 43 percent of the 1,045 voting delegates supported the higher standard, the Associated Press says.
Other topics of consideration include a broader statement on sexuality, a 34-page document that reportedly would establish a theological framework for differing views of homosexuality. Critics say it would liberalize the ELCA.
The ELCA claims about 4.7 million members and 10,000 congregations in the United States.
Coincidence, or, co-incidents?
Consideration of the proposed Social Statement on Human Sexuality document was scheduled to begin on Wednesday, August 19, at 2:oo p.m.
According to the website of the Central Lutheran Church located across the street from the conference center, where the assembly was in session, the tornado passed through downtown Minneapolis near CLC at, you guessed it, approximately 2:00 p.m…
TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: catholic; cross; elca; elcgay; eldnca; gays; homosexualagenda; lutheran; minneapolis; steeple; tornado
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posted on
08/20/2009 10:36:06 AM PDT
by
NYer
To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
Just a coincidence .... right? ;-)
2
posted on
08/20/2009 10:36:53 AM PDT
by
NYer
( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
To: lightman; Cletus.D.Yokel; bcsco
ELCA (Extremely Liberal Church in America/ Ex-Lutheran Church in America) ping.
To: NYer
Can you hear me now?! - God
4
posted on
08/20/2009 10:40:07 AM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
To: NYer
5
posted on
08/20/2009 10:46:44 AM PDT
by
jonno
(Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
To: jonno
I should have mentioned - Piper’s church is just a few blocks from where this occurred...
6
posted on
08/20/2009 10:48:59 AM PDT
by
jonno
(Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
To: NYer
7
posted on
08/20/2009 10:52:03 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(Pro-Freedom Fiction Writers Unite! - http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
To: NYer
You know it’s bad when even Gaia says you’re not Christian anymore.
To: NYer
9
posted on
08/20/2009 10:53:37 AM PDT
by
DarthVader
(Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
To: NYer
"Just a coincidence .... right? ;-)"When it comes to God, there ain't no coincidences!
10
posted on
08/20/2009 10:55:08 AM PDT
by
Redleg Duke
("Don't fire unless fired upon, but it they mean to have a war, let it begin here." J Parker, 1775)
To: NYer
Something we thought about yesterday after it hit.
To: NYer
Could be a connection; but there was a lot of other things damaged there also.
My company has a huge facility there that was damaged also.
12
posted on
08/20/2009 10:58:09 AM PDT
by
HereInTheHeartland
(Just say no to Soylent Green health care)
To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...
Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
13
posted on
08/20/2009 10:58:38 AM PDT
by
lightman
(Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
To: NYer
14
posted on
08/20/2009 11:00:14 AM PDT
by
Polyxene
(America held hostage for the next 4 years by a RAT thug from Chicago - www.obamaclock.org)
To: lightman
as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH. I think the preferred term is Sunday morning secular society.
15
posted on
08/20/2009 11:01:30 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: NYer
The dementors will just ignore it and vote our Church into the Unitarian realm of being. I still can not believe they are taking my Church from me.
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posted on
08/20/2009 11:04:41 AM PDT
by
aliquando
(A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
To: NYer
![](http://fratres.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/central_mpls_081809_02.jpg?w=419&h=574)
"Here's your sign...." -- GOD
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posted on
08/20/2009 11:09:40 AM PDT
by
OB1kNOb
(Extreme right-winged mob terrorist astroturfing bitter clinging racist birther evilmongering wingnut)
To: lightman; Cletus.D.Yokel; bcsco; PJ-Comix; doug from upland
Click the music link and sing along!
E.L.C.A.
Tune: "Y.M.C.A."
"Luth'ran"
Doesn't mean quite the same
As what you've been
Taught to know by that name.
We're removin'
All the scandal and shame
Of a church that stands for something.
Luth'ran,
No, you're not misinformed,
Yes, it's true now,
We commune the Reformed.
No forced union
Made us bow or conform,
Just a warm and fuzzy feeling.
It's fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
It's fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
We have women in black,
Now there's no turning back
To the hang-ups of dead white guys.
It's fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
It's fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
You can set yourself free
From dead orthodoxy,
You can do whatever you please.
Luth'ran,
Won't you please come along
To the Elca,
Where's theres no right or wrong.
In the Elca,
Heretics can belong,
They can teach at seminary.
"Luth'ran,"
But our fingers were crossed,
All our doctrine
Has been totally lost.
All that's Luth'ran
Is what we have embossed
On our cards and stationery.
It's fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
It's fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
We have women in black,
Now there's no turning back
To the hang-ups of dead white guys.
It's fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
It's fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
You can set yourself free
From dead orthodoxy,
You can do whatever you please.
Elca,
Where it's very uncouth
And unwelcome
To say you have the truth
And where seldom
Is a word ever heard
To discourage sin or error.
Elca,
Where it's all shades of gray,
I said, Elca,
Where it's hip to be gay.
Our umbrella
Is as big as a tent,
There's no need for you to repent.
It's fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
It's fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
We have women in black,
Now there's no turning back
To the hang-ups of dead white guys.
It's fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
It's fun to be in the E.L.C.A.
You can set yourself free
From dead orthodoxy,
You can do whatever you please. . . .
To: Polyxene
Just a small taste of the fury that is to come. The moneychangers days in the temple are numbered and the numbers are not many.
19
posted on
08/20/2009 11:15:49 AM PDT
by
DarthVader
(Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
To: aliquando
You can always come home. Catholic or Orthodox. I know of number of exELCA Orthodox parishioners in my daughter’s parish in Maryland.
20
posted on
08/20/2009 11:29:39 AM PDT
by
arthurus
("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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