Posted on 08/01/2009 9:11:08 PM PDT by prasiolite
I've heard Osteen say in the 'beginning' that he doesn't mention the word 'sin' because in his words, "he doesn't want to beat anyone down by doing so or make them feel guilty, when they're going through enough already"? "Huh"? What am I missing here? If we say we're "followers" of Christ, and the Bible says we're to remind people of the 'sin' in their lives, in order for them to learn what 'Christ has done for them to get rid of that sin', then how are we helping them by keep our mouths shut by only giving them 'feel good messages'?
Joel Osteen’s gospel “Pray to baby Jesus and he will give you a new BMW.”
The guy is a fraud like Obama’s friend Rick Warren plus the fake catholics at Notre Dame and the American “kennedy” catholic Church.
I don’t agree with you on all your points, but definitely on “Osteen”.
I don’t agree with you on all your points, but definitely DO AGREE on “Osteen”.
He’s not a biblical preacher, apparently. He’s a health and wealth disciple?
Another reason why I like Pastor Manning is he rips all the huckster gospel fraudsters like Osteen and he really goes after black “pastor” Crefalo Dollar. He hammers him on YouTube and calls him a “mack daddy pimp” which he also calls Obama.
The Bible tlaks about false prophets, and people who despise the truth and only want messages their ears want to hear.
Let’s be looking for infiltrators. She joined today and posts this vanity.
In my estimation, a lot of these new-fangled evangelical churches are in line with that. Scripture is kept to a minimum, sin is rarely tackled. It’s all feel good, financial planning, and snare drums.
There’s a place for all of that, but I can’t help but think the message is getting watered down in a way to appease the masses.
Theology is all but absent in waaaaay too many churches these days.
I actually once did a google search on “joel osteen and repentance” and needless to say there were no Osteen sermons that came up.
I saw a vid of Pastor Manning ripping into longlegged Mack daddy Obama and ripping into black people. He was in full robed regalia, behind His pulpit . Not one word of the gospel message, however. Thought it was strange.
It may seem strange to you, but he is being very Biblical, leading his flock, the folks God has brought to him for his guidance/instruction ‘in all things’ as the Apostle Paul put it.
BTW, you haven’t seen an entire sermon, just snippets of five or six minutes. He also has a radio show.
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He does preach the gospel plus other things. I would taake him over Osteen and Rick Warren any day.
Osteen is simply an under-educated, overpaid pastor. He fell ass-backward into a gigantic congregation, and doesn’t have the theological background to justify his popularity.
I do not begrudge a man his gifts. Perhaps Osteen’s gift is encouragement. The fact that Osteen is always upbeat and avoids certain down-beat topics is less concerning than his theological ineptitude with which he addresses the topics that make it into his sermons.
It is concerning that there is no cross on the stage from which Osteen preaches ... just a globe. His constant preaching about God not wanting people to “lack” anything materially, health-wise, relationally, etc. is simply ridiculous ...
God beat the Hell out of Job, and pretty much told him to man up, grow a pair, and quit his whining (that’s a SnakeDoctor paraphrase of Job 38). Christ Himself was impoverished, shunned by everyone, beaten to a pulp, and died in excruciating pain. Osteen’s image of the ideal Christian (wealthy, healthy, and with great relationships) doesn’t even include Christ.
It is unfortunate that Osteen’s message is so distorted. He could do a LOT of good. I attend a Houston Mega-Church that is only slightly smaller than Lakewood ... and the pastor is as doctrinally conservative as any I have met. Second Baptist Church is the place to be.
SnakeDoc
Osteen and that insipid little grin of his is cut from the same mold as Warren.
Just more feelgood, man is essentially sinless and good,tell ‘em what they want to hear, fill the pews, send my your cash huskstering in the name of God.
Having said that, Paul wrote in one of his letters that this was going on in the early Christian church and, while he bemoaned it, he went on to say that if a few souls are genuinely saved and brought to Christ, the hucksters were to be cut some slack,
Paul was clearly a bigger man than moi.
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